Gamification Expert Sophia Burrell Explores the Power of Storytelling and Engagement
In this partaking episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua Berglan interviews particular guest Sophia Burrell, a multi-talented skilled with a background in psychology and expertise in the area of gamification. Sophia shares her fascinating journey and insights on how she creates customized board games centered round a person, brand, or business, serving to them join with their audience on a deeper stage.
Together, Sophia and Joshua dive deep into subjects corresponding to mindset, legacy, the facility of media, and the significance of gratitude. Their insightful dialog highlights the potential for personal growth and optimistic change by way of the facility of storytelling and gamification. Viewers shall be left inspired to explore new methods of engaging with their viewers and leaving a meaningful legacy.
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Sophia Burrell
Founder/CEO/Board Game Designer
Sophia Burrell International, Inc.
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A creative house the place gamification, psychology and playful critical pondering are integrated.
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Transcript
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Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: okay, Sophia Burrell, you are Inspiring to me. And I just wish to let you know that.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, thanks.
Joshua Berglan: after I got your e mail on LinkedIn, I appeared over it and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: And Even though, I didn't understand every thing that you were doing. I simply had this sturdy feeling that you had been doing something.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I went digging. and the extra I've discovered about you, the extra I am humbled to talk to you. welcome to conversations with Joshua,…
Sophia Burrell: Thank…
Joshua Berglan: T-barg one.
Joshua Berglan: I am blessed to have you right here.
Sophia Burrell: Thank you.
Sophia Burrell: I'm nice to fulfill you.
Joshua Berglan: Where are you at right now? Because you do business all around the world however you're an East coast now too. You're?
Sophia Burrell: I'm in Queens At the moment. I recently move from Long Island So I'm in Queens right now making an attempt to I'm gonna be transitioning.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: So that is my transition part. So I'm here briefly in Queens. New York.
Joshua Berglan: No and the place you're going once more.
Sophia Burrell: I originally lived in Long Island, are you acquainted with New York?
Joshua Berglan: Okay. I am,…
Joshua Berglan: I Love New York.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, I lived in Long Island. And I know I mean Queens quickly however I'm thinking of upstate New York or…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: Connecticut. Because I am not really a city particular person.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I do not actually like New York City, I hate the crowd I hate house living. Let's put it that method, where there's somebody above you under,…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: you left, and right of It's not one thing that I like a lot. So I'm transitioning to both connect to chop or upstate.
Joshua Berglan: Connecticut is gorgeous too, so It is once I was in healthcare,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes, I know. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the business that we bought out to, we bought our family enterprise, to a large national firm, and so they had been wager based mostly in Connecticut.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I obtained to go up there for the primary time and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: What an unreal place. So I imply, it is beautiful But there was also a component to it that I felt like I was 20 years again in time, and…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Okay.
Joshua Berglan: then there was some areas the place I felt like I was 200 years back in time so the Northeast is a very interesting part of the United States but
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Im No, I was thinking of staying closer to the town which is Fairfield County So I don't want to go anyplace beyond that.
Joshua Berglan: Mm- Okay. Okay. …
Sophia Burrell: So yeah.
Joshua Berglan: you've an accent.
Sophia Burrell: I'm initially from Jamaica. I got here to the US three months after September 11,…
Joshua Berglan: okay.
Sophia Burrell: imagine it or not. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I'm gonna question then. that's fascinating, I did not know that about What was that coming to America at that time because that time for anybody who lived in America was, they may most likely look again and say, that is when every thing changed. But coming to America,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: At that time. What was that like for you?
Sophia Burrell: It's not one thing that I think about actually as it relates to 9/11 as a result of it by no means actually affected me right here or…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: there to be trustworthy with you as a outcome of I am from another place. I…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: I wasn't American and so it affected me differently. So, I mean, I got here to the US and New York specifically and I just hit the ground working. I would go to Wall Street space, looking for work and all over the city and it didn't affect me, really? To be trustworthy with you, That. But I did understand the magnitude of…
Joshua Berglan: No, that's
Sophia Burrell: what had happened.
Joshua Berglan: From what I perceive about it. I've been to primarily Jamaican areas like in Costa Rica but not really Jamaica. And so I've heard you…
Sophia Burrell: I see.
Joshua Berglan: completely different stereotypes. I imply I've seen photos of Jamaica that are absolutely beautiful but then you hear of some of the violence and different things that occurs drug commerce.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Is that? What growing up like and again, I don't know when you grew up across the violence. I don't know any of that stuff. But when you come from a place like that,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: that has that type of reputation or stereotype to it, being from there, how does that make you feel?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I imply it would not make me really feel any means different. I imply it isn't just like the violence was proper in my yard or something,
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I was having a dialog with somebody a quantity of days ago And I keep in mind in Jamaica, I attended highschool. I was an athlete. I was the fastest woman a lady in my school and every morning we had to meet on the National Stadium for training. And I would leave the house at 5 am within the mornings. Throughout high school. And it daybreak on me, I suppose earlier this yr, that it was so dangerous for me to do that, but I just never thought of it that way. Because each morning would have to meet at the stadium at six o'clock and…
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: would have to leave the house at 5:00. Walk to the bus stop. And take that bus, I don't know, maybe about half-hour drive and meet the group there. And so, In the violence wasn't essentially in my yard. Because I mean, I did that all through high school and I wasn't at risk or anything. I survived it.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I am. And that's fascinating because I've heard just about the same thing from other people who come from locations with stereotypical tons of violence, and crime and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: gangs, and I've heard the identical thing. And then in my very own experience and I've lived in primarily huge cities, and I've been surrounded by craziness and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: violence, and poverty, and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Right.
Joshua Berglan: homelessness and drug use and all the stuff that comes with Living in a significant city. But whenever you're there, you're simply living and What?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, you just dwelling and my thoughts there are neighborhoods that are well-known for being, there areas…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: where there are violence but I did not live in these neighborhoods. So, you…
Joshua Berglan: Or hang out there.
Sophia Burrell: I didn't experience it at present,…
Sophia Burrell: be up what? I'm sorry.
Joshua Berglan: I stated We're hanging out there,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I got it. So together with your background in psychology, And, after all, the gamification of life that you come up with. And Is just so neat,…
Sophia Burrell: No, I never did. So
Sophia Burrell: yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however what led you into the field of psychology?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I'm not sure there's something about learning about human habits and how the you are thinking impacts your habits and all that sort of stuff. I do not know. I was all the time fascinated by it and I did very well. I mean there's one thing that I'm all the time somewhat Nervous about sharing just isn't. I did my master's on-line. University of Phoenix and so I do not know. For some cause, there's somewhat stigma to that but I did my psychology diploma on-line and…
Joshua Berglan: Really.
Sophia Burrell: did very properly. I obtained a very high GPA I suppose as a end result of I was so thinking about All the topics of psychology. I do not know. I loved it. And so,…
Joshua Berglan: I was.
Sophia Burrell: yeah. Go ahead.
Joshua Berglan: I was drawn to it, always too, and I couldn't explain why. I didn't even get pleasure from studying. I do not enjoy studying that a lot. But when it comes to things about…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: how our thoughts works, how I was drawn to,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: criminals and psychopaths, and serial killers, and never that I needed to be one. however it,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but indirectly, Because I went via my own trauma and, abuse and other things. And I don't need to go into my story now.
Joshua Berglan: But I saw lots of things rising up that have been dark and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: evil and conflicting with additionally rising up in the church, it was,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: I was immersed on the earth of excellent and evil and the evil aspect of things seem extra fascinating to me as a outcome of the great,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the nice appears so unreachable. So, for…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I was relating extra to the dark aspect again. Not that I wanted to go. Anyone. but how that thoughts labored and every thing from sex addiction to violence to so on and it's fascinating as a result of it almost
Joshua Berglan: We are so fragile as people yet. At the identical time, we're anticipated and even To have all of this strength and knowing of their id. But but every little thing that we seem to come across on this life in this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to be an assault on our id, to maintain us from understanding who we really are. Am I really far off here or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. No.
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Joshua Berglan: straight someplace shut.
Sophia Burrell: And, I was listening to a podcast, some weeks ago and the individual stated, Psychology is a delicate science. As if it's not important or it was like on the mind in the significance of what psychology is. And I felt insulted that he mentioned that, it could be delicate science. I mean I guess to a level however I imply psychology effects everything.
Joshua Berglan: Everything.
Sophia Burrell: Doesn't it? Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I'm at this place now the place I believe that our thoughts, I shifted my perception about lots of issues a couple of 12 months ago and I started to Kind of come to this place where the Garden of Eden tennis Okay. The Garden of Eden.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to me to be the mind. and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: that might be far off and that I could go off on a tangent on this. But there seems to be this warfare on our mind, your imaginative and prescient tv programming. when we get into this type of stuff, and I'm actually into thoughts management. And I've read a lot of books on this.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, my games. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I'm tying our external stimuli. All of the totally different programming.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: All of the totally different entertainment are multi-screen leisure. It's on each potential system that we can get some kind of content material to fill our minds with. And what can we choose to do that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And so it looks as if we are programming ourselves, and I'm beginning to work this perception that plenty of these books and movies and other things from the past years past that have been displaying us a future. it's virtually like we by watching these items and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: talking about it or manifesting these realities that Hum from our television. Is it,…
Sophia Burrell: So funny.
Joshua Berglan: what do you suppose about that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, it's so funny. You should say that as a result of I was watching the History Channel some weeks in the past. And this fascination that Americans have with breakfast being egg and bacon. that was someone's a advertising.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Look
Sophia Burrell: Tactic some a few years ago. what that was advertising and…
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: folks simply purchased into it and it is a natural thing for individuals now but it was a advertising ploy. I don't know, I don't bear in mind what decade however maybe within the 1900 somewhere however I imply, the means in which that advertising labored, we now don't even notice that there was somebody's idea. Of us,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it's crazy.
Sophia Burrell: it is crazy, isn't it?
Joshua Berglan: And then I imply I would consider boot campaigns
Sophia Burrell: That wasn't much. I think it was a advertising ploy to promote more eggs or something like that. I don't quite keep in mind however it was a advertising ploy.
Joshua Berglan: I keep in mind Pork, the other chicken that campaign when that got here out. I mean,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, you're right. There's something to that. I mean, they've accomplished it with cigarettes. I mean,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: So okay. why you got into psychology and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: But the gamification.
Sophia Burrell: Mm-hmm
Joshua Berglan: So I interviewed somebody and the timing of this is so fascinating as a outcome of just last week, I interviewed, someone an incredible woman, her name is Ashton and what she does is she goes into move into enterprise conferences, and it might work with school too, however she just will get sharpies and markers and she or he's drawing and sketching during this meeting and what she creates for the folks which may be a half of this assembly is this visible illustration of that meeting that for some cause, these photos that she attracts helps everyone in that Get the complete good thing about what that meeting was supposed to be out and…
Sophia Burrell: wow.
Joshua Berglan: it somehow brings all of them collectively. And I thought, that is actually attention-grabbing. And I didn't understand any of it ly, and I still do not absolutely perceive it.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But what you are doing? Is like to me and I'm not putting down what Ashton does. It all? Because I love Ashton. It's truly certainly one of my favourite folks on the planet now. but you take, But kind of what that is, however you are doing something far. Almost. It feels deeper and it feels like this course of and also you appropriate me if I'm wrong as a end result of I have not read any analysis or research, nevertheless it seems like by these custom board games that are centered across the particular person, the brand, the identity, the business, it is serving to, then get into the unconscious of who's enjoying their recreation. Okay, explain…
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Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: what you do now for the viewers. So I do not, however
Sophia Burrell: So I am fascinated with this gamification process and it started by chance actually in 2018. my door, I was struggling in my enterprise and my eldest thought of me creating a enterprise equipment for my enterprise. now, we went online and have a glance at examples, however none of them seem to Fit what I was doing. But we had been brainstorming all morning and what to do and, my model is the Victory acronym. I'm undecided you're aware of that. So my brand is a victory acronym. And we have been attempting to determine how we can create a enterprise equipment round this acronym. and a board recreation concept came out of that brainstorming session with my daughter.
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: And I created Conferences At first, it was called Victory Trail Game. Utilizing all the traits inside the acronym, so I'm not sure…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: if you understand that, So I use the phrase victory as an acronym the place every letter represents an enduring high quality or attribute that essential to victory. And so, that was what my first game was about these seven attributes. And so I put C represents confidence. And that was in the heart of the sport. So that was my first recreation and I used to enter faculty, I was in Long Island at the time and I would go to Suffolk County and send Joseph's faculty and have Display the sport and get their feedback. And so my love of gamification began based mostly on that. earlier this year, I was hanging out so much with them. It's a friend of mine right here. He owns a plumbing firm in Harlem. And I considered
Sophia Burrell: He has been good to me, And I thought of doing something for him in as a payback principally and that created a game for him but just the game is predicated on his enterprise. What he does. So there are four areas that people call them about all the time. Overflowing toilet overflow, sewer, overflow kitchen sink overflow, and no heat. And I created a sport based mostly on those four. Services. And that was the place. Building board video games for others happened.
Joshua Berglan: So, you constructed the game form. Does he promote the game to his customers?
Sophia Burrell: No. No,…
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Sophia Burrell: the sport was supposed to be for his employees as a end result of there are some lower level employees…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: who have to know the basics of plumbing. And so the sport was very in-depth. It's not just for enjoyable. The recreation was a learning device as properly, but I did a deep dive into plumbing to create that recreation. so for any of his staff are enjoying the game, they're studying something about the method to do. Certain fundamental stuff employment.
Joshua Berglan: So okay, so if I was a broadcaster, What type of game would you create for a broadcaster or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: am I gifting away secrets by asking this question? Okay.
Sophia Burrell: No, of course So I imply a broadcaster. So what we try to do in our game development, is to make use of the company's story, and their brand message and weave that into the narrative of the game. So I would have to know the story of this broadcaster.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I must know what their brand message is. and that is the basis of constructing a story within the recreation.
Joshua Berglan: So what sort of like clearly that is efficient because you're working in Africa, the UK Australia, the United States, I miss…
Sophia Burrell: Let me right you there,…
Joshua Berglan: Europe.
Sophia Burrell: is that? okay, so I construct the sport for somebody within the UK, But I'm the reason…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: why I talked about Australia and Africa is because I'm trademarked in lots of international locations. So, it's not that I truly labored there or…
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Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: it isn't that. I built some sport for somebody there, but I'm trademarked all round the world. and it is the thought. And the explanation why I did that is also as a result of I'm involved working in those areas. I'm interested in working in these nations, so a trademark my stuff there. So, after I get there, there isn't any confusion, That's what she does and I'm not intervening in other people's. Brand. So, I secured my spot in some nations and I don't really work there.
Joshua Berglan: Fair enough. But it's too okay. Then either way that truly I'm extra impressed by that you have the foresight within the belief and the imaginative and prescient to know that you'll be doing enterprise there. So you prepared I love that now good.
Sophia Burrell: M- which is why it was fascinating. When I build this sport for Guy in London, I actually felt Somewhat snug because I'm trademark there. My e-book is in the library's there.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I feel it is like, I really have all that is those issues arrange there means before, I visited The place.
Joshua Berglan: What, I'm the world's mayor and…
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: I haven't been all round the world but and I'm not officially the world's mayor but, however I own the area. And but I even have a worldwide imaginative and prescient. I have a heart for group And this nickname…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: how I took place, it don't want to enter the story, but I even have a global imaginative and prescient that I am obsessed with in most of the place my vision takes place. I even have never seen a picture of aside from a photo. I imply I've seen photos of it but by no means been I even have associates and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: folks that I know from there, these places throughout Africa is certainly one of them including South Africa. Since I was a baby, I've had these desires.
Joshua Berglan: Of working there and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yes,…
Joshua Berglan: serving there. and…
Sophia Burrell: me too.
Joshua Berglan: I'm and…
Joshua Berglan: I've been obsessed with that. My entire life haven't been there but. But once more, my mindset my objectives, and the way I want to influence the world. it's fitting of that nickname. So it is like I'm simply gonna step into that go well with whenever the Creator allows it to happen,…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yes.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but every little thing I do is to move towards that aim.
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yeah. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Let me ask you this, what type of mindset for you as a your psychiatrist? Correct. It's
Sophia Burrell: I'm not a psychiatrist. I have a grasp's Insideology.
Joshua Berglan: That's okay. I needed to thanks for clarifying. I'm trying to go off of everything. I bear in mind from studying and I do not have notes with me so I'm going off reminiscence.
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But that sort of background. What is your mindset? when you may have this huge aim on this huge dream however you're not there but. What retains you going? Every day pursuing that aim.
Sophia Burrell: what retains me going is, from, for many years I've all the time said, as a matter of reality, I said this in high school And I keep in mind writing it down in one of the again of my e-book. Before I die, I need the world to know who Sophia Burrell was. And hear,…
Joshua Berglan: Why?
Sophia Burrell: I don't know why I mentioned it at the time. But that was simply something inside me. And since I realized that I've been living my life chasing this That assertion earlier than I die.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I need individuals to know who I am. I don't need to be. this obscure determine that no one is conscious of about, And I assume that was what drove me additionally to trademark in all the international locations that I have. Because my books because tell you what, I did, So drew the pandemic. What I did was I ordered 20 copies of my e-book. And I mailed it to libraries in, I don't know, perhaps in Five Libraries in Africa. In the UK and some locations within the Caribbean. And I think that's so, okay, I'm gonna give you the story.
Joshua Berglan: What a great idea.
Sophia Burrell: The first time so was so, I went to Europe in March, right? And my flight.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
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Sophia Burrell: I was going straight to Paris my enterprise companion lives in Paris. And so I had a connecting flight in London. But as a result of Paris had a strike, the flights have been canceled between London and Paris, and so I had to stay over in London for the night time. So I'm strolling round on the lookout for a cheap place to stay here and I hold passing this library, which it was near, the Victoria coach station. And I had one copy of my book. And I stated,…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: You know what? I'm gonna go in there. So I know, I went to guide the room first, put my stuff down, and then I went back to the library and advised them that I asked the guy who was on the entrance desk. I said is it attainable to have put my e-book on the catalog that you've here? He was giving me a story, some excuses about. The Library of Congress and all that stuff. And I said, okay, and I was truly figuring out. When I remember that I did mail some books to London. went again to him and I said, I did mail some books to some libraries in London. Could you simply verify in case you have it on your catalog already? And he checked. And my book. Is in the library system in London.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I was so shocked because I imply I simply did this actually you…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: sending my books. I simply went on-line to find some library addresses and mail my e-book with a notice on it they usually put my guide on their catalog. So, I assume having that mindset from that time. Is what drove me for is driving me to do this stuff as a end result of I do not want to pass and no one is aware of who Sophia Burrell was. So I'm always say to my youngsters. if I die right now. my books will still be within the libraries. and years from now, folks will nonetheless be, reading my guide
Joshua Berglan: I'm gonna ask you a private query. Because I have the identical desire,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I would phrase it in a special way.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: My words would sound totally different nevertheless it means the identical actual thing.
Joshua Berglan: And I say till I wish to be well-known, however well-known for the proper causes not well-known as I was an actor. I need to be famous for the work that I do for different people and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I assist folks And that is the legacy that I wish to depart, but I wish to be well-known for making different individuals. Famous, that's…
Sophia Burrell: as a matter of fact,…
Joshua Berglan: what I want.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you utilize that phrase, sorry that I all the time use as properly, I assume having This vision. it is about leaving a legacy and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: you just use that phrase. it is really about legacy. It's not me wanting to be well-known.
Joshua Berglan: And once I say well-known again, it isn't from an ego place. It's for the Famous folks have wasted a chance to do so much rattling good on the planet. And they have energy powers extra essential than money…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a end result of energy gives you influence.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: When you've energy, you probably can stroll right into a room and you also can make things occur. And I am uninterested in watching people suffer.
Sophia Burrell: Nothing. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I am uninterested in watching voices being drowned out by a corporate media with an agenda. There isn't any room for reality on this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: or at least. That's what people assume. Therefore, they silence themselves.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Or some individuals don't even know tips on how to use their voice they usually're intimidated to make use of their voice due to what occurs to them once they speak the truth. And I drives me nuts and I wish to be part of that change. considered one of my goals in life is to be part of it. I know I can't do it alone, however I need to be one of many
Joshua Berglan: Influential truth, that one of the influences behind shattering, the power that lies within the palms of a few of the media,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I want to shatter into tens of millions of individuals of pieces to give the ability to hundreds of thousands of individuals and spread it out because that means other people may have a chance to get their voices heard. And the truth,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: although there shall be room for reality. And I do not imagine that we can heal this battle between races and religions and every little thing else. So we have absolutely the reality and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: we do not have that proper now.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, I agree. one has to surprise, why is it that when people come into money they hold on to it. So tightly the place they'd never assist. A group or assist one other individual or usually surprise and I know have a glance at Jeff Bridge, Jeff Bezos for instance. I don't bear in mind how much is yacht. He has a yard that's price, I do not know 15 million or something like that. And I'm like I imply, is that more necessary than sending half of that to some Third World nation to assist them or I do not know.
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Sophia Burrell: perhaps if I really have that type of money that I'll assume in a special way. I'm not sure. But it seems like there's a lot waste when that cash Could be more helpful somewhere elsewhere in the world.
Joshua Berglan: I was watching a YouTube video about a month ago and it was about they had been exhibiting this warehouse that the Saudi prince had That he had every make and mannequin of each single car ever made in these cars, simply set there. And the explanation I heard that that they had that Was because they should spend that money or they get taxed to demise or something like that. Like they want that.
Sophia Burrell: Always.
Joshua Berglan: Those depreciating property, that was the rationale I heard and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it kind of is sensible, however on the identical time, there's nonetheless 100 billion dollars and you've got got God is conscious of what type of credit. you could go rebuild some communities, there isn't any purpose for homelessness.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: In America at all, there's none. But yet we've a homeless epidemic growing
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. individuals. Was also saying that Jamaica is indeed crime ridden. And what I mean? I misplaced my chain of thought. Okay, so individuals will say lots of unfavorable issues in regards to the Caribbean Jamaican explicit. But there are poverty right here in America. That's worse than the Jamaica, I…
Joshua Berglan: Really. I have not been to Jamaica so I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: do not you find?
Joshua Berglan: But I lived in Los Angeles. I've lived in Vegas. I've lived all over California in San Diego too.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Right.
Joshua Berglan: I've spent so much time in San Francisco and I have a heart for the homeless group.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Right.
Joshua Berglan: So I've carried out lots of work with them over there, even right here that's close to me in Minneapolis. and I've seen some issues which are like that is in America, it's skid row point,…
Sophia Burrell: There's not.
Joshua Berglan: you have all of these youngsters operating around and…
Sophia Burrell: .
Joshua Berglan: it's like, How is that this allowed? So I do not know…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: what it's like there to have the ability to comment on it, but I do know. It's some fairly sketchy stuff here.
Sophia Burrell: the homelessness in Jamaica Is nowhere close to what was happening in LA. You…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: and So I grew up in Jamaica.
Sophia Burrell: I even have. And So I know that Jamaica is a tropical place. it's warm year round. And so there's so many fruits there to eat. It's like You can't really go hungry. I go to my grandmother's place and there's a cashew tree at the back, there's apple tree, There's guinea, there's Star Pool. There's banana. All those things are in my grandmother's backyard, so it's like a,…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: you'll find a way to't go hungry. Maybe there are folks there who're going hungry however it was not my expertise.
Joshua Berglan: I think that Jamaica's featured in this guide, known as Happiness within the Blue Zones, Do you know about this…
Sophia Burrell: yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: It's about the happiest locations on the Planet National Geographic, I assume wrote the e-book it.
Sophia Burrell: And Jamaica's woman.
Joshua Berglan: I suppose Jamaica is probably one of the places that's listed as happiest on the world.
Sophia Burrell: No. Right.
Joshua Berglan: Costa Rica is one. Switzerland is one other.
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: And they discuss there's excessive taxes. Yes. But all of, that is taken care of. and again, I don't bear in mind exactly.
Joshua Berglan: But I do assume Jamaica was there. I know for positive. Costa Rica was too. And the only thing that I think about, when you talked about the fruit bushes and every little thing is that individuals live daily, they reside in the second and they are grateful for what they've in the moment. And that appears to be this underlying across the board with all of these countries and the blue zones. That everybody was grateful for what they'd in the second that was the common theme amongst in any respect.
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Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And but in America, as a outcome of we got to buy the next thing. Gotta purchase the latest thing,…
Sophia Burrell: It's a culture,…
Joshua Berglan: got It's a half of our culture.
Sophia Burrell: it is the cultural factor I guess. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: You're proper. How do you
Joshua Berglan: Because there is a bit of a dopamine repair. When you buy one thing new, otherwise you get one thing new and thrilling, however it goes away really fast.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: It's type of like doing a drug like cocaine the place you get these couple of minutes of euphoria after which s***. I got to do another one. And one other one.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And when that has turn out to be a culture? and an identification, even How do you reverse that or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: does it simply should be broken…
Sophia Burrell: What I mean?
Joshua Berglan: but is not it funny? I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: Even if it's damaged, there should be some solution but I don't know. So there's certain things which are so steeped in the American culture. it's gonna be exhausting to fix, So I do not know tips on how to answer that.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, I always think of, there is a pastor in America, his name's TD Jakes, He, …
Sophia Burrell: I love him.
Joshua Berglan: he is known for saying the blessing is in the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. sure.
Joshua Berglan: my so every time and that is in the end once I heard that it kind of made me hooked on
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I know this is gonna harm but I'm doing it. Anyway and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. He?
Joshua Berglan: not physical damage, but emotionally damage where this is another instance of me needing to die to myself. This is another part of killing part of my ego.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is I don't wish to discuss this, but I need to talk about Whatever it's. going via that pain,…
Sophia Burrell: But that's a mindset. Mm-hmm.
Joshua Berglan: facing that enormous going to slay, that dragon is painful and brutal because the experience could additionally be. There's blessings all up in it, it's
Sophia Burrell: Yes, and, I assume, that was a mindset shift, right learning that from him and…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: it is shifted me as well. I keep in mind that sermon. I nonetheless listen to him. Constantly, I love TD Jakes. he has a means of wording things that simply makes it really easy To understand and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I one hundred pc agree.
Sophia Burrell: to Lots of takeaways from his sermons.
Joshua Berglan: And what he does I mean As a businessman too, like his knowledge of media.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I was inspiring for me, he followed the same format in a blueprint like Oprah going.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: He was unbiased media before independent media turned a thing and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: he lined all of the bases music and books and talking in film and manufacturing and he was masking all of the bases. So he was a huge affect for me, type of throughout the board, not even simply in ministry,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however as a businessman as an leisure and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a media, he was an enormous influence, however I heard him converse on the Rock church in San Diego. He was promoting his book sore.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: And Soar was another one of many books where they discuss about the blessing, being of the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, yes.
Joshua Berglan: and it changed my life and one of the examples that he gave and I'd wish to get your feedback on this, however he was speaking about An airplane that's just misplaced a wing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: It's coming down and pilot. it could possibly do certainly one of two things. my God,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: I received
Sophia Burrell: panic.
Joshua Berglan: I've got one wing, I'm touchdown this airplane. I'm getting everyone residence safely.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is what I received and it was give consideration to the things. You do have it.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, exactly.
Joshua Berglan: Not what you observe.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: That?
Sophia Burrell: love that.
Joshua Berglan: That was the story. whenever you hear What does that imply to you?
Sophia Burrell: I sort of stay my life also based on some of the stuff you say I suppose I'm knowledgeable optimist.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: And individuals may be irritated with me too being this optimistic. It's like no one needs to be around an optimistic particular person all the time. If something goes mistaken, I'm like, what is this imagined to mean? what is God's bigger plan? Why He has put me by way of this difficulty?
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: That's all I think, however touching again on t. There's something that TG Jakes mentioned, he has so many nuggets out there. But This one, he mentioned no person would have recognized Jesus. If it wasn't for Judas Right.
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: Because Judas betrayed Jesus. That's What created this thing round Jesus, So, it's don't Feel offended if you're betrayed or if individuals do not such as you're being criticized. Maybe that is a blessing in disguise. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: There was another saying that was about betrayal and blessings but you'll find a way to't have the blessing with out betrayal or one thing like that. In one other one which I love,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: that didn't come from TD Jakes. I first heard it from Ed Mylett and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. …
Joshua Berglan: that is life occurs for you.
Sophia Burrell: I love the mallet.
Sophia Burrell: Hello guys.
Joshua Berglan: I interviewed him three or…
Joshua Berglan: 4 years in the past and I had one of the best time here.
Sophia Burrell: You want you?
Joshua Berglan: Do I?
Sophia Burrell: He stated it met him. did…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I interviewed him. yeah,…
Sophia Burrell: Wow.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, it I was after I was living in LA and He was nice.
Sophia Burrell: My goodness. No, I'm jealous.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up.
Sophia Burrell: I'm so jealous of that.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up on his relationship with God and I obtained him to talk in one other way than he usually does an interviews and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it was nice but I received kicked off of YouTube and so I lost that I interviewed someplace, but I misplaced it anyway…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however he is an amazing guy but he said that too in that very same stuck out to my head as a end result of each time something unhealthy happened. I developed this mindset of going.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I know this is occurring for me.
Sophia Burrell: For four reasons.
Joshua Berglan: I auditioned for the Miami heat, I can now say it. I to do TV for them and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: audition and I just found out that I did not get it. someone else's received the gig and my first reaction was Something higher is coming from me. I obtained something better and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I actually did not even really need the job as a result of I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan but it will have been a great alternative. But my instant reaction was Something God's obtained one thing better for me and…
Sophia Burrell: Of course.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I would have never had that mindset if I didn't hear 4 years ago, life happens for you.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, after all. Yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: Because I'm not a victim and everything is working out in my favor.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, your favor.
Joshua Berglan: God has proven that every single day of my life and even once I was not even walking with God, Looking back at it. When I ought to have most likely been killed,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: God ought to have just taken me out. He was nonetheless lining my paths, and with all of the hardship, all of the battle, all of that. It's all turned out to be a blessing. Every little bit of it.
Sophia Burrell: Do you recall this different sermon that he had concerning the storm? so typically No,…
Joshua Berglan: How eagles rise above the storm? and…
Sophia Burrell: no, we're not.
Joshua Berglan: it was, are you speaking about How an eagle makes use of the storm to rise above?
Sophia Burrell: yeah, I know but that one, too, but that is not the one I'm referred to. So,
Joshua Berglan: that's Miles Monroe. They did that one. Okay, good.
Sophia Burrell: so he mentioned, Sometimes, when a the storm does not come to harm you. The storm comes to maybe redirect your path. Yeah, proper.
Joshua Berglan: I like that one, too.
Joshua Berglan: I, Man, what a life. You're so enjoyable to speak to. I'm so glad that you simply came on.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you do.
Joshua Berglan: I need you to, I mean, we could just hold speaking for hours, however I would love so that you can please plug your business plug the place individuals can follow you, the place individuals can get their recreation made and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: and just share something that is in your coronary heart.
Sophia Burrell: It's Sophia Burrell. I N T L. Dot com. That's the website. And I even have a course referred to as Gamify Your targets. And I recently changed it to gamify your self. So the course relies on the victory acronym, we spoke of earlier. And you probably can enroll there at gamify your goals.com.
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Joshua Berglan: Excellent, do you might have any final words? Okay. Sophia.
Sophia Burrell: That's it nice to meet you, Joshua.
Joshua Berglan: You are a blessing. I'm so glad we received to talk and I look forward to attending to know you extra All…
Sophia Burrell: Thank you a lot. Have a fantastic day. Bye.
Joshua Berglan: Thank you..