Gamification Expert Sophia Burrell Explores the Power of Storytelling and Engagement
In this participating episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua Berglan interviews particular visitor Sophia Burrell, a multi-talented skilled with a background in psychology and experience in the subject of gamification. Sophia shares her fascinating journey and insights on how she creates custom board games centered around an individual, model, or business, serving to them connect with their viewers on a deeper stage.
Together, Sophia and Joshua dive deep into subjects such as mindset, legacy, the power of media, and the importance of gratitude. Their insightful conversation highlights the potential for personal progress and constructive change through the power of storytelling and gamification. Viewers might be left impressed to explore new methods of participating with their viewers and leaving a meaningful legacy.
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Sophia Burrell
Founder/CEO/Board Game Designer
Sophia Burrell International, Inc.
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Transcript
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Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: okay, Sophia Burrell, you're Inspiring to me. And I just need to inform you that.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, thank you.
Joshua Berglan: when I got your e mail on LinkedIn, I appeared over it and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: And Even although, I didn't understand every little thing that you have been doing. I simply had this sturdy feeling that you have been doing something.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I went digging. and the extra I've learned about you, the extra I am humbled to talk to you. welcome to conversations with Joshua,…
Sophia Burrell: Thank…
Joshua Berglan: T-barg one.
Joshua Berglan: I am blessed to have you right here.
Sophia Burrell: Thank you.
Sophia Burrell: I'm nice to meet you.
Joshua Berglan: Where are you at proper now? Because you do business everywhere in the world however you're an East coast now too. You're?
Sophia Burrell: I'm in Queens At the moment. I lately move from Long Island So I'm in Queens proper now trying to I'm gonna be transitioning.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: So this is my transition part. So I'm right here briefly in Queens. New York.
Joshua Berglan: No and the place you're going once more.
Sophia Burrell: I initially lived in Long Island, are you familiar with New York?
Joshua Berglan: Okay. I am,…
Joshua Berglan: I Love New York.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, I lived in Long Island. And I know I mean Queens quickly but I'm considering of upstate New York or…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: Connecticut. Because I am probably not a metropolis person.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I do not actually like New York City, I hate the group I hate condo dwelling. Let's put it that method, where there's somebody above you under,…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: you left, and proper of It's not one thing that I like so much. So I'm transitioning to both connect to chop or upstate.
Joshua Berglan: Connecticut is beautiful too, so It is once I was in healthcare,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes, I know. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the enterprise that we sold out to, we bought our family enterprise, to an enormous national company, and they had been wager primarily based in Connecticut.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I got to go up there for the first time and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: What an unreal place. So I imply, it's beautiful But there was also an element to it that I felt like I was 20 years back in time, and…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Okay.
Joshua Berglan: then there was some areas the place I felt like I was 200 years again in time so the Northeast is a very fascinating part of the United States however
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Im No, I was pondering of staying nearer to the town which is Fairfield County So I don't wish to go anyplace beyond that.
Joshua Berglan: Mm- Okay. Okay. …
Sophia Burrell: So yeah.
Joshua Berglan: you may have an accent.
Sophia Burrell: I'm originally from Jamaica. I got here to the US three months after 9/11,…
Joshua Berglan: okay.
Sophia Burrell: believe it or not. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I'm gonna question then. that is attention-grabbing, I didn't know that about What was that coming to America at the moment as a outcome of that time for anyone who lived in America was, they might most likely look again and say, that is when every little thing modified. But coming to America,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: At that point. What was that like for you?
Sophia Burrell: It's not one thing that I take into consideration really because it pertains to 9/11 as a result of it by no means really affected me right here or…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: there to be sincere with you as a result of I am from one other place. I…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: I wasn't American and so it affected me differently. So, I mean, I came to the US and New York specifically and I simply hit the bottom operating. I would go to Wall Street space, looking for work and all around the city and it did not affect me, really? To be sincere with you, That. But I did understand the magnitude of…
Joshua Berglan: No, that is
Sophia Burrell: what had occurred.
Joshua Berglan: From what I understand about it. I've been to primarily Jamaican areas like in Costa Rica but not actually Jamaica. And so I've heard you…
Sophia Burrell: I see.
Joshua Berglan: completely different stereotypes. I mean I've seen footage of Jamaica which would possibly be absolutely lovely however you then hear of some of the violence and other things that happens drug commerce.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Is that? What rising up like and again, I don't know when you grew up across the violence. I do not know any of that stuff. But when you come from a place like that,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: that has that sort of popularity or stereotype to it, being from there, how does that make you feel?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I mean it would not make me feel any means completely different. I imply it isn't just like the violence was right in my yard or one thing,
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I was having a dialog with somebody a couple of days ago And I remember in Jamaica, I attended highschool. I was an athlete. I was the fastest girl a woman in my faculty and every morning we had to meet on the National Stadium for training. And I would go away the house at 5 am in the mornings. Throughout highschool. And it daybreak on me, I suppose earlier this 12 months, that it was so harmful for me to do that, but I simply by no means considered it that method. Because every morning must meet at the stadium at six o'clock and…
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: must go away the house at 5:00. Walk to the bus cease. And take that bus, I don't know, maybe about 30 minutes drive and meet the staff there. And so, In the violence wasn't necessarily in my yard. Because I imply, I did that all through highschool and I wasn't in danger or something. I survived it.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I am. And that is interesting as a result of I've heard pretty much the same factor from different people who come from places with stereotypical tons of violence, and crime and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: gangs, and I've heard the same factor. And then in my very own experience and I've lived in primarily massive cities, and I've been surrounded by craziness and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: violence, and poverty, and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Right.
Joshua Berglan: homelessness and drug use and all the stuff that comes with Living in a major city. But if you're there, you are just residing and What?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, you simply living and my mind there are neighborhoods that are well-known for being, there areas…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: the place there are violence but I didn't live in these neighborhoods. So, you…
Joshua Berglan: Or hang on the market.
Sophia Burrell: I did not expertise it right now,…
Sophia Burrell: be up what? I'm sorry.
Joshua Berglan: I mentioned We're hanging out there,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I got it. So with your background in psychology, And, in fact, the gamification of life that you just give you. And Is simply so neat,…
Sophia Burrell: No, I by no means did. So
Sophia Burrell: yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however what led you into the sector of psychology?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I'm undecided there's one thing about learning about human habits and how the you are pondering impacts your behavior and all that sort of stuff. I don't know. I was at all times fascinated by it and I did really well. I imply there's something that I'm at all times somewhat Nervous about sharing is not. I did my grasp's online. University of Phoenix and so I do not know. For some purpose, there's somewhat stigma to that but I did my psychology degree on-line and…
Joshua Berglan: Really.
Sophia Burrell: did very well. I obtained a very excessive GPA I suppose because I was so excited about All the matters of psychology. I don't know. I loved it. And so,…
Joshua Berglan: I was.
Sophia Burrell: yeah. Go forward.
Joshua Berglan: I was drawn to it, at all times too, and I couldn't explain why. I did not even take pleasure in studying. I do not enjoy studying that much. But when it comes to issues about…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: how our mind works, how I was drawn to,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: criminals and psychopaths, and serial killers, and not that I needed to be one. but it,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however ultimately, Because I went via my own trauma and, abuse and other issues. And I do not need to enter my story now.
Joshua Berglan: But I saw plenty of things growing up that were darkish and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: evil and conflicting with additionally rising up in the church, it was,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: I was immersed in the world of fine and evil and the evil aspect of things seem extra fascinating to me as a result of the great,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the nice seems so unreachable. So, for…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I was relating extra to the darkish aspect once more. Not that I wished to go. Anyone. however how that thoughts labored and everything from intercourse dependancy to violence to so on and it's fascinating as a end result of it virtually
Joshua Berglan: We are so fragile as people but. At the same time, we're expected and even To have all of this energy and knowing of their identity. But yet every thing that we appear to come across in this life on this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to be an attack on our id, to maintain us from knowing who we actually are. Am I really far off here or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. No.
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Joshua Berglan: straight somewhere shut.
Sophia Burrell: And, I was listening to a podcast, some weeks in the past and the particular person stated, Psychology is a soft science. As if it isn't important or it was like on the thoughts in the significance of what psychology is. And I felt insulted that he mentioned that, it could be soft science. I mean I guess to a degree but I mean psychology effects every little thing.
Joshua Berglan: Everything.
Sophia Burrell: Doesn't it? Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I'm at this place now where I consider that our thoughts, I shifted my perception about a lot of things a couple of yr ago and I started to Kind of come to this place the place the Garden of Eden tennis Okay. The Garden of Eden.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to me to be the mind. and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: that could be far off and that I may go off on a tangent on this. But there seems to be this warfare on our mind, your vision tv programming. when we get into this type of stuff, and I'm actually into mind control. And I've learn plenty of books on this.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, my games. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I'm tying our exterior stimuli. All of the totally different programming.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: All of the different leisure are multi-screen entertainment. It's on every possible system that we are ready to get some sort of content material to fill our minds with. And what do we select to do that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And so it looks like we are programming ourselves, and I'm beginning to work this perception that lots of these books and flicks and other things from the past years previous that had been showing us a future. it's nearly like we by watching these items and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: talking about it or manifesting these realities that Hum from our television. Is it,…
Sophia Burrell: So funny.
Joshua Berglan: what do you consider that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, it is so humorous. You should say that because I was watching the History Channel some weeks ago. And this fascination that Americans have with breakfast being egg and bacon. that was someone's a advertising.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Look
Sophia Burrell: Tactic some a few years in the past. what that was advertising and…
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: people simply bought into it and it's a pure thing for folks now nevertheless it was a advertising ploy. I do not know, I don't keep in mind what decade but possibly within the 1900 someplace but I imply, the greatest way that advertising worked, we now do not even understand that there was somebody's idea. Of us,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it is loopy.
Sophia Burrell: it is loopy, is not it?
Joshua Berglan: And then I imply I would consider boot campaigns
Sophia Burrell: That wasn't a lot. I think it was a marketing ploy to sell more eggs or something like that. I don't fairly keep in mind nevertheless it was a marketing ploy.
Joshua Berglan: I remember Pork, the other chicken that campaign when that came out. I imply,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, you're proper. There's one thing to that. I mean, they've carried out it with cigarettes. I mean,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: So okay. why you bought into psychology and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: But the gamification.
Sophia Burrell: Mm-hmm
Joshua Berglan: So I interviewed someone and the timing of this is so attention-grabbing because simply last week, I interviewed, somebody a tremendous girl, her identify is Ashton and what she does is she goes into move into business meetings, and it would work with school too, but she just gets sharpies and markers and she or he's drawing and sketching during this meeting and what she creates for the people that are part of this meeting is that this visible representation of that meeting that for some cause, these photos that she attracts helps everyone in that Get the complete good thing about what that assembly was alleged to be out and…
Sophia Burrell: wow.
Joshua Berglan: it somehow brings them all collectively. And I thought, this is really interesting. And I did not understand any of it ly, and I nonetheless don't absolutely understand it.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But what you are doing? Is like to me and I'm not placing down what Ashton does. It all? Because I love Ashton. It's really considered one of my favourite folks on the planet now. but you take, But type of what that's, however you're doing something far. Almost. It feels deeper and it seems like this course of and also you correct me if I'm mistaken because I have not read any research or research, but it feels like by these customized board games which are centered across the individual, the brand, the identity, the enterprise, it is helping, then get into the unconscious of who's playing their sport. Okay, explain…
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Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: what you do now for the viewers. So I don't, however
Sophia Burrell: So I am fascinated with this gamification course of and it began accidentally truly in 2018. my door, I was struggling in my enterprise and my eldest considered me creating a enterprise kit for my enterprise. now, we went on-line and take a look at examples, but none of them seem to Fit what I was doing. But we have been brainstorming all morning and what to do and, my model is the Victory acronym. I'm undecided you're aware of that. So my brand is a victory acronym. And we have been making an attempt to determine how we will create a enterprise kit around this acronym. and a board game idea came out of that brainstorming session with my daughter.
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: And I created Conferences At first, it was known as Victory Trail Game. Utilizing all of the traits inside the acronym, so I'm not sure…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: if you realize that, So I use the word victory as an acronym the place each letter represents a permanent high quality or attribute that important to victory. And so, that was what my first sport was about these seven attributes. And so I put C represents confidence. And that was within the middle of the sport. So that was my first game and I used to go into school, I was in Long Island on the time and I would go to Suffolk County and ship Joseph's faculty and have Display the sport and get their suggestions. And so my love of gamification began based mostly on that. earlier this year, I was hanging out a lot with them. It's a pal of mine right here. He owns a plumbing firm in Harlem. And I thought of
Sophia Burrell: He has been good to me, And I considered doing something for him in as a payback mainly and that created a game for him but simply the game is predicated on his business. What he does. So there are 4 areas that folks call them about all the time. Overflowing rest room overflow, sewer, overflow kitchen sink overflow, and no heat. And I created a sport primarily based on those four. Services. And that was where. Building board games for others came about.
Joshua Berglan: So, you constructed the sport kind. Does he promote the game to his customers?
Sophia Burrell: No. No,…
Joshua Berglan: How does that work?
Sophia Burrell: the sport was supposed to be for his workers as a result of there are some lower degree employees…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: who need to know the fundamentals of plumbing. And so the sport was very in-depth. It's not just for enjoyable. The recreation was a studying tool as properly, but I did a deep dive into plumbing to create that recreation. so for any of his staff are enjoying the game, they're studying something about the means to do. Certain fundamental stuff employment.
Joshua Berglan: So okay, so if I was a broadcaster, What type of sport would you create for a broadcaster or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: am I giving away secrets and techniques by asking this question? Okay.
Sophia Burrell: No, in fact So I imply a broadcaster. So what we attempt to do in our recreation growth, is to make use of the corporate's story, and their model message and weave that into the narrative of the sport. So I must know the story of this broadcaster.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I must know what their brand message is. and that is the basis of building a story within the game.
Joshua Berglan: So what sort of like obviously this is efficient because you're working in Africa, the UK Australia, the United States, I miss…
Sophia Burrell: Let me correct you there,…
Joshua Berglan: Europe.
Sophia Burrell: is that? okay, so I build the game for somebody in the UK, But I'm the reason…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: why I talked about Australia and Africa is as a end result of I'm trademarked in a lot of nations. So, it's not that I really worked there or…
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Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: it isn't that. I built some game for someone there, but I'm trademarked all around the world. and it is the idea. And the explanation why I did that also is because I'm fascinated working in those areas. I'm excited about working in these nations, so a trademark my stuff there. So, when I get there, there isn't any confusion, That's what she does and I'm not intervening in different folks's. Brand. So, I secured my spot in some international locations and I don't actually work there.
Joshua Berglan: Fair enough. But it's too okay. Then both method that really I'm extra impressed by that you have the foresight within the belief and the imaginative and prescient to know that you will be doing business there. So you ready I love that now good.
Sophia Burrell: M- which is why it was fascinating. When I construct this sport for Guy in London, I actually felt Somewhat comfy as a result of I'm trademark there. My guide is in the library's there.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I really feel it's like, I even have all that's these issues set up there method earlier than, I visited The place.
Joshua Berglan: What, I'm the world's mayor and…
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: I haven't been everywhere in the world yet and I'm not officially the world's mayor yet, but I own the area. And however I have a worldwide vision. I have a coronary heart for community And this nickname…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: how I happened, it do not need to go into the story, but I even have a world vision that I am obsessed with in most of the place my imaginative and prescient takes place. I have never seen an image of other than a photo. I mean I've seen pictures of it but by no means been I have pals and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: people that I know from there, these locations all over Africa is certainly one of them together with South Africa. Since I was a toddler, I've had these goals.
Joshua Berglan: Of working there and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yes,…
Joshua Berglan: serving there. and…
Sophia Burrell: me too.
Joshua Berglan: I'm and…
Joshua Berglan: I've been obsessive about that. My complete life have not been there but. But again, my mindset my objectives, and how I need to impression the world. it's becoming of that nickname. So it's like I'm simply gonna step into that swimsuit every time the Creator permits it to happen,…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yes.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but every little thing I do is to move towards that objective.
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yeah. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Let me ask you this, what type of mindset for you as a your psychiatrist? Correct. It's
Sophia Burrell: I'm not a psychiatrist. I actually have a grasp's Insideology.
Joshua Berglan: That's okay. I wished to thanks for clarifying. I'm attempting to go off of every thing. I keep in mind from reading and I don't have notes with me so I'm going off memory.
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But that sort of background. What is your mindset? when you've this huge aim in this huge dream but you're not there yet. What keeps you going? Every day pursuing that aim.
Sophia Burrell: what keeps me going is, from, for a few years I've always said, as a matter of truth, I stated this in highschool And I remember writing it down in one of many again of my guide. Before I die, I need the world to know who Sophia Burrell was. And pay attention,…
Joshua Berglan: Why?
Sophia Burrell: I do not know why I mentioned it on the time. But that was just one thing within me. And since I realized that I've been living my life chasing this That assertion before I die.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I want people to know who I am. I do not want to be. this obscure figure that no one knows about, And I assume that was what drove me additionally to trademark in all of the countries that I even have. Because my books as a result of inform you what, I did, So drew the pandemic. What I did was I ordered 20 copies of my book. And game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience mailed it to libraries in, I do not know, possibly in Five Libraries in Africa. In the UK and some places in the Caribbean. And I suppose that is so, okay, I'm gonna provide the story.
Joshua Berglan: What a great idea.
Sophia Burrell: The first time so was so, I went to Europe in March, right? And my flight.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
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Sophia Burrell: I was going straight to Paris my enterprise associate lives in Paris. And so I had a connecting flight in London. But as a outcome of Paris had a strike, the flights were canceled between London and Paris, and so I needed to stay over in London for the evening. So I'm strolling round in search of a cheap place to stay right here and I keep passing this library, which it was near, the Victoria coach station. And I had one copy of my guide. And I mentioned,…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: You know what? I'm gonna go in there. So I know, I went to e-book the room first, put my stuff down, and then I went back to the library and advised them that I requested the man who was at the entrance desk. I mentioned is it attainable to have put my e-book on the catalog that you've here? He was giving me a story, some excuses about. The Library of Congress and all that stuff. And I stated, okay, and I was really figuring out. When I remember that I did mail some books to London. went back to him and I stated, I did mail some books to some libraries in London. Could you simply examine if you have it in your catalog already? And he checked. And my guide. Is in the library system in London.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I was so shocked because I imply I simply did this really you…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: sending my books. I simply went on-line to find some library addresses and mail my guide with a observe on it they usually put my e-book on their catalog. So, I suppose having that mindset from that point. Is what drove me for is driving me to do these items because I don't need to pass and no person knows who Sophia Burrell was. So I'm at all times say to my children. if I die today. my books will still be in the libraries. and years from now, people will still be, studying my book
Joshua Berglan: I'm gonna ask you a personal question. Because I have the same want,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I would phrase it in a unique way.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: My phrases would sound totally different but it means the identical actual thing.
Joshua Berglan: And I say till I wish to be famous, however well-known for the right reasons not well-known as I was an actor. I wish to be famous for the work that I do for other individuals and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I help folks And that is the legacy that I want to go away, however I want to be well-known for making other individuals. Famous, that's…
Sophia Burrell: as a matter of fact,…
Joshua Berglan: what I want.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you employ that word, sorry that I at all times use as properly, I think having This vision. it's about leaving a legacy and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: you simply use that phrase. it's truly about legacy. It's not me wanting to be well-known.
Joshua Berglan: And when I say well-known again, it's not from an ego place. It's for the Famous folks have wasted a chance to take action much rattling good on the planet. And they have energy powers more necessary than money…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a end result of energy offers you affect.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: When you have power, you presumably can walk into a room and you might make issues happen. And I am bored with watching individuals undergo.
Sophia Burrell: Nothing. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I am bored with watching voices being drowned out by a corporate media with an agenda. There is not any room for truth on this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: or a minimum of. That's what people assume. Therefore, they silence themselves.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Or some people don't even know tips on how to use their voice and they're intimidated to make use of their voice due to what occurs to them after they communicate the truth. And I drives me nuts and I want to be part of that change. considered one of my objectives in life is to be part of it. I know I cannot do it alone, but I want to be one of many
Joshua Berglan: Influential reality, that one of the influences behind shattering, the power that lies within the palms of some of the media,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I wish to shatter into hundreds of thousands of people of items to provide the ability to hundreds of thousands of individuals and unfold it out as a end result of that method other individuals will have an opportunity to get their voices heard. And the truth,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: although there shall be room for truth. And I do not imagine that we can heal this battle between races and religions and every little thing else. So we have the absolute reality and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: we don't have that right now.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, I agree. one has to marvel, why is it that when individuals come into money they maintain on to it. So tightly the place they would by no means help. A community or assist one other individual or typically surprise and I know take a look at Jeff Bridge, Jeff Bezos for example. I do not remember how much is yacht. He has a yard that is value, I do not know 15 million or one thing like that. And I'm like I mean, is that more essential than sending half of that to some Third World nation to assist them or I don't know.
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Sophia Burrell: maybe if I really have that sort of money that I'll suppose in one other way. I'm not sure. But it seems like there's a lot waste when that money Could be more useful someplace elsewhere in the world.
Joshua Berglan: I was watching a YouTube video a few month ago and it was about they had been displaying this warehouse that the Saudi prince had That he had each make and model of each single automotive ever made in those vehicles, just set there. And the explanation I heard that they had that Was because they have to spend that cash or they get taxed to death or something like that. Like they need that.
Sophia Burrell: Always.
Joshua Berglan: Those depreciating assets, that was the reason I heard and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it sort of makes sense, but at the similar time, there's nonetheless a hundred billion dollars and you have got God knows what type of credit. you can go rebuild some communities, there's no reason for homelessness.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: In America at all, there's none. But but we have a homeless epidemic rising
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. folks. Was also saying that Jamaica is certainly crime ridden. And what I mean? I misplaced my chain of thought. Okay, so individuals will say plenty of negative things concerning the Caribbean Jamaican particular. But there are poverty right here in America. That's worse than the Jamaica, I…
Joshua Berglan: Really. I have not been to Jamaica so I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: don't you find?
Joshua Berglan: But I lived in Los Angeles. I've lived in Vegas. I've lived throughout California in San Diego too.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Right.
Joshua Berglan: I've spent so much time in San Francisco and I even have a coronary heart for the homeless group.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Right.
Joshua Berglan: So I've accomplished lots of work with them over there, even here that's close to me in Minneapolis. and I've seen some things which may be like that is in America, it is skid row point,…
Sophia Burrell: There's not.
Joshua Berglan: you could have all of those youngsters operating around and…
Sophia Burrell: .
Joshua Berglan: it's like, How is that this allowed? So I do not know…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: what it is like there to have the ability to comment on it, however I do know. It's some fairly sketchy stuff right here.
Sophia Burrell: the homelessness in Jamaica Is nowhere close to what was happening in LA. You…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: and So I grew up in Jamaica.
Sophia Burrell: I really have. And So I know that Jamaica is a tropical place. it's heat year spherical. And so there's so many fruits there to eat. It's like You can't actually go hungry. I go to my grandmother's place and there is a cashew tree at the back, there's apple tree, There's guinea, there's Star Pool. There's banana. All these issues are in my grandmother's backyard, so it is like a,…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: you'll have the ability to't go hungry. Maybe there are people there who are going hungry however it was not my experience.
Joshua Berglan: I think that Jamaica's featured in this book, called Happiness within the Blue Zones, Do you understand about this…
Sophia Burrell: yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: It's about the happiest locations on the Planet National Geographic, I suppose wrote the e-book it.
Sophia Burrell: And Jamaica's girl.
Joshua Berglan: I think Jamaica is likely considered one of the places that is listed as happiest on the world.
Sophia Burrell: No. Right.
Joshua Berglan: Costa Rica is one. Switzerland is one other.
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: And they discuss there's excessive taxes. Yes. But all of, that is taken care of. and once more, I do not remember exactly.
Joshua Berglan: But I do think Jamaica was there. I know for sure. Costa Rica was too. And the only factor that I take into consideration, if you mentioned the fruit bushes and every thing is that folks reside everyday, they reside within the second and they are grateful for what they have within the moment. And that appears to be this underlying across the board with all of these international locations and the blue zones. That everybody was grateful for what they'd in the second that was the frequent theme amongst at all.
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Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And but in America, as a end result of we got to purchase the following thing. Gotta purchase the newest factor,…
Sophia Burrell: It's a culture,…
Joshua Berglan: received It's part of our culture.
Sophia Burrell: it's the cultural factor I guess. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: You're right. How do you
Joshua Berglan: Because there is a bit of a dopamine repair. When you buy something new, otherwise you get one thing new and thrilling, but it goes away actually quick.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: It's kind of like doing a drug like cocaine where you get these couple of minutes of euphoria and then s***. I obtained to do one other one. And one other one.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And when that has turn into a culture? and an identity, even How do you reverse that or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: does it simply have to be broken…
Sophia Burrell: What I mean?
Joshua Berglan: however isn't it funny? I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: Even if it's damaged, there have to be some answer but I do not know. So there's certain things that are so steeped within the American culture. it's gonna be onerous to fix, So I don't know how to answer that.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, I always consider, there's a pastor in America, his title's TD Jakes, He, …
Sophia Burrell: I love him.
Joshua Berglan: he is identified for saying the blessing is within the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. yes.
Joshua Berglan: my so every time and that is finally once I heard that it type of made me hooked on
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I know that is gonna harm however I'm doing it. Anyway and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. He?
Joshua Berglan: not physical hurt, but emotionally damage where that is one other example of me needing to die to myself. This is another part of killing part of my ego.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is I don't wish to speak about this, but I want to talk about Whatever it is. going through that ache,…
Sophia Burrell: But that is a mindset. Mm-hmm.
Joshua Berglan: dealing with that giant going to slay, that dragon is painful and brutal as the experience could additionally be. There's blessings all up in it, it's
Sophia Burrell: Yes, and, I suppose, that was a mindset shift, right learning that from him and…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: it is shifted me as nicely. I do not neglect that sermon. I still listen to him. Constantly, I love TD Jakes. he has a method of wording things that just makes it really easy To understand and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I 100 percent agree.
Sophia Burrell: to Lots of takeaways from his sermons.
Joshua Berglan: And what he does I imply As a businessman too, like his information of media.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I was inspiring for me, he followed the same format in a blueprint like Oprah going.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: He was impartial media earlier than unbiased media became a thing and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: he coated all the bases music and books and speaking in movie and production and he was overlaying all of the bases. So he was a huge affect for me, type of across the board, not even simply in ministry,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but as a businessman as an leisure and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a media, he was an enormous affect, however I heard him speak on the Rock church in San Diego. He was promoting his e-book sore.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: And Soar was another one of many books the place they discuss concerning the blessing, being of the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, sure.
Joshua Berglan: and it modified my life and one of the examples that he gave and I'd like to get your feedback on this, however he was speaking about An airplane that is simply misplaced a wing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: It's coming down and pilot. it could do certainly one of two things. my God,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: I got
Sophia Burrell: panic.
Joshua Berglan: I've obtained one wing, I'm landing this airplane. I'm getting everyone residence safely.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is what I received and it was focus on the issues. You do have it.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, precisely.
Joshua Berglan: Not what you observe.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: That?
Sophia Burrell: love that.
Joshua Berglan: That was the story. when you hear What does that mean to you?
Sophia Burrell: I kind of reside my life additionally based on some of the things you say I think I'm an expert optimist.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: And folks may be annoyed with me too being this optimistic. It's like no one desires to be round an optimistic individual all the time. If one thing goes incorrect, I'm like, what is that this imagined to mean? what's God's larger plan? Why He has put me by way of this difficulty?
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: That's all I think, however touching back on t. There's something that TG Jakes mentioned, he has so many nuggets on the market. But This one, he mentioned no person would have known Jesus. If it wasn't for Judas Right.
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: Because Judas betrayed Jesus. That's What created this factor round Jesus, So, it is don't Feel offended if you're betrayed or if individuals do not such as you're being criticized. Maybe that is a blessing in disguise. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: There was another saying that was about betrayal and blessings but you'll be able to't have the blessing with out betrayal or one thing like that. In one other one that I love,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: that didn't come from TD Jakes. I first heard it from Ed Mylett and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. …
Joshua Berglan: that is life happens for you.
Sophia Burrell: I love the mallet.
Sophia Burrell: Hello guys.
Joshua Berglan: I interviewed him three or…
Joshua Berglan: four years in the past and I had the most effective time here.
Sophia Burrell: You need you?
Joshua Berglan: Do I?
Sophia Burrell: He mentioned it met him. did…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I interviewed him. yeah,…
Sophia Burrell: Wow.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, it I was once I was dwelling in LA and He was great.
Sophia Burrell: My goodness. No, I'm jealous.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up.
Sophia Burrell: I'm so jealous of that.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up on his relationship with God and I received him to talk differently than he usually does an interviews and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it was nice however I got kicked off of YouTube and so I lost that I interviewed somewhere, but I misplaced it anyway…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but he is an incredible guy however he stated that too in that same stuck out to my head because every time something dangerous happened. I developed this mindset of going.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I know this is happening for me.
Sophia Burrell: For 4 reasons.
Joshua Berglan: I auditioned for the Miami heat, I can now say it. I to do TV for them and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: audition and I simply discovered that I didn't get it. somebody else's received the gig and my first response was Something higher is coming from me. I got one thing better and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I really did not even really need the job as a result of I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan however it would have been an excellent alternative. But my immediate response was Something God's received something higher for me and…
Sophia Burrell: Of course.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I would have never had that mindset if I did not hear four years in the past, life occurs for you.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, after all. Yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: Because I'm not a victim and everything is figuring out in my favor.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, your favor.
Joshua Berglan: God has proven that every day of my life and even after I was not even strolling with God, Looking again at it. When I should have most likely been killed,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: God should have just taken me out. He was still lining my paths, and with all the hardship, all the struggle, all of that. It's all turned out to be a blessing. Every bit of it.
Sophia Burrell: Do you recall this different sermon that he had about the storm? so generally No,…
Joshua Berglan: How eagles rise above the storm? and…
Sophia Burrell: no, we're not.
Joshua Berglan: it was, are you talking about How an eagle makes use of the storm to rise above?
Sophia Burrell: yeah, I know but that one, too, however that's not the one I'm referred to. So,
Joshua Berglan: that is Miles Monroe. They did that one. Okay, good.
Sophia Burrell: so he mentioned, Sometimes, when a the storm doesn't come to hurt you. The storm comes to perhaps redirect your path. Yeah, proper.
Joshua Berglan: I like that one, too.
Joshua Berglan: I, Man, what a life. You're so fun to talk to. I'm so glad that you just got here on.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you do.
Joshua Berglan: I need you to, I imply, we might just keep speaking for hours, but I would love so that you simply can please plug your business plug where individuals can comply with you, the place individuals can get their game made and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: and just share anything that's on your coronary heart.
Sophia Burrell: It's Sophia Burrell. I N T L. Dot com. That's the internet site. And I even have a course called Gamify Your goals. And I recently modified it to gamify your self. So the course is based on the victory acronym, we spoke of earlier. And you can enroll there at gamify your objectives.com.
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Joshua Berglan: Excellent, do you have any final words? Okay. Sophia.
Sophia Burrell: That's it nice to satisfy you, Joshua.
Joshua Berglan: You are a blessing. I'm so glad we received to speak and I look forward to getting to know you more All…
Sophia Burrell: Thank you a lot. Have a great day. Bye.
Joshua Berglan: Thank you..