Gamification Expert Sophia Burrell Explores the Power of Storytelling and Engagement
In this engaging episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua Berglan interviews particular guest Sophia Burrell, a multi-talented skilled with a background in psychology and experience within the field of gamification. Sophia shares her fascinating journey and insights on how she creates customized board games centered round an individual, model, or enterprise, helping them join with their audience on a deeper level.
Together, Sophia and Joshua dive deep into matters similar to mindset, legacy, the power of media, and the significance of gratitude. Their insightful conversation highlights the potential for private growth and positive change through the power of storytelling and gamification. Viewers will be left impressed to explore new methods of participating with their audience and leaving a meaningful legacy.
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Sophia Burrell
Founder/CEO/Board Game Designer
Sophia Burrell International, Inc.
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Transcript
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Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: okay, Sophia Burrell, you would possibly be Inspiring to me. And I simply need to let you know that.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, thank you.
Joshua Berglan: after I received your email on LinkedIn, I seemed over it and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: And Even although, I did not perceive everything that you just have been doing. I just had this strong feeling that you simply had been doing one thing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I went digging. and the more I've learned about you, the extra I am humbled to talk to you. welcome to conversations with Joshua,…
Sophia Burrell: Thank…
Joshua Berglan: T-barg one.
Joshua Berglan: I am blessed to have you right here.
Sophia Burrell: Thank you.
Sophia Burrell: I'm good to fulfill you.
Joshua Berglan: Where are you at proper now? Because you do business all around the world but you're an East coast now too. You're?
Sophia Burrell: I'm in Queens At the moment. I recently transfer from Long Island So I'm in Queens proper now attempting to I'm gonna be transitioning.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: So that is my transition section. So I'm right here temporarily in Queens. New York.
Joshua Berglan: No and where you're going once more.
Sophia Burrell: I originally lived in Long Island, are you conversant in New York?
Joshua Berglan: Okay. I am,…
Joshua Berglan: I Love New York.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, I lived in Long Island. And I know I mean Queens briefly but I'm pondering of upstate New York or…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: Connecticut. Because I am probably not a metropolis particular person.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I do not actually like New York City, I hate the crowd I hate house living. Let's put it that means, the place there's somebody above you under,…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: you left, and proper of It's not one thing that I like so much. So I'm transitioning to both join to cut or upstate.
Joshua Berglan: Connecticut is gorgeous too, so It is when I was in healthcare,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes, I know. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the business that we sold out to, we bought our family enterprise, to a large national firm, they usually have been bet based mostly in Connecticut.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I got to go up there for the primary time and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: What an unreal place. So I imply, it is beautiful But there was additionally a component to it that I felt like I was 20 years again in time, and…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Okay.
Joshua Berglan: then there was some areas the place I felt like I was 200 years again in time so the Northeast is a very interesting a half of the United States but
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Im No, I was thinking of staying nearer to the city which is Fairfield County So I do not wish to go anyplace past that.
Joshua Berglan: Mm- Okay. Okay. …
Sophia Burrell: So yeah.
Joshua Berglan: you may have an accent.
Sophia Burrell: I'm originally from Jamaica. I came to the US three months after September 11,…
Joshua Berglan: okay.
Sophia Burrell: consider it or not. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I'm gonna question then. that's interesting, I did not know that about What was that coming to America at that time as a result of that time for anyone who lived in America was, they might in all probability look back and say, that is when every little thing changed. But coming to America,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: At that point. What was that like for you?
Sophia Burrell: It's not something that I take into consideration really as it pertains to 9/11 as a result of it never really affected me right here or…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: there to be honest with you as a result of I am from one other place. I…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: I wasn't American and so it affected me differently. So, I imply, I came to the US and New York specifically and I simply hit the ground operating. I would go to Wall Street space, trying to find work and all around the city and it did not affect me, really? To be honest with you, That. But I did perceive the magnitude of…
Joshua Berglan: No, that's
Sophia Burrell: what had happened.
Joshua Berglan: From what I perceive about it. I've been to primarily Jamaican areas like in Costa Rica however not truly Jamaica. And so I've heard you…
Sophia Burrell: I see.
Joshua Berglan: different stereotypes. I mean I've seen footage of Jamaica which would possibly be completely stunning however you then hear of some of the violence and other things that happens drug commerce.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Is that? What rising up like and once more, I don't know should you grew up around the violence. I don't know any of that stuff. But whenever you come from a spot like that,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: that has that type of status or stereotype to it, being from there, how does that make you feel?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I imply it would not make me feel any means completely different. I mean it is not like the violence was right in my backyard or one thing,
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I was having a dialog with someone a few days ago And I bear in mind in Jamaica, I attended high school. I was an athlete. I was the fastest woman a lady in my college and every morning we had to meet on the National Stadium for training. And I would go away the home at 5 am within the mornings. Throughout high school. And it daybreak on me, I think earlier this yr, that it was so harmful for me to strive this, however I simply by no means considered it that way. Because each morning would have to meet at the stadium at six o'clock and…
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: must depart the house at 5:00. Walk to the bus cease. And take that bus, I don't know, possibly about 30 minutes drive and meet the staff there. And so, In the violence wasn't essentially in my backyard. Because I mean, I did that throughout highschool and I wasn't in danger or something. I survived it.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I am. And that is attention-grabbing as a outcome of I've heard just about the identical factor from other people that come from locations with stereotypical tons of violence, and crime and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: gangs, and I've heard the same thing. And then in my own expertise and I've lived in primarily massive cities, and I've been surrounded by craziness and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: violence, and poverty, and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Right.
Joshua Berglan: homelessness and drug use and all of the stuff that comes with Living in a serious city. But when you're there, you are just dwelling and What?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, you just residing and my mind there are neighborhoods which may be famous for being, there areas…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: where there are violence however I didn't stay in these neighborhoods. So, you…
Joshua Berglan: Or hold on the market.
Sophia Burrell: I did not expertise it at present,…
Sophia Burrell: be up what? I'm sorry.
Joshua Berglan: I mentioned We're hanging out there,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I obtained it. So together with your background in psychology, And, in fact, the gamification of life that you come up with. And Is simply so neat,…
Sophia Burrell: No, I by no means did. So
Sophia Burrell: yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however what led you into the sphere of psychology?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I'm undecided there's something about learning about human behavior and how the you're pondering impacts your habits and all that type of stuff. I do not know. I was always fascinated by it and I did very well. I imply there's something that I'm all the time a little Nervous about sharing just isn't. I did my master's online. University of Phoenix and so I do not know. For some cause, there's somewhat stigma to that but I did my psychology diploma online and…
Joshua Berglan: Really.
Sophia Burrell: did very properly. I got a very high GPA I think because I was so excited about All the topics of psychology. I do not know. I beloved it. And so,…
Joshua Berglan: I was.
Sophia Burrell: yeah. Go ahead.
Joshua Berglan: I was drawn to it, all the time too, and I couldn't explain why. I didn't even take pleasure in reading. I do not enjoy reading that much. But in relation to issues about…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: how our thoughts works, how I was drawn to,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: criminals and psychopaths, and serial killers, and never that I wanted to be one. however it,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but ultimately, Because I went through my very own trauma and, abuse and different things. And I don't want to enter my story now.
Joshua Berglan: But I noticed lots of things growing up that had been dark and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: evil and conflicting with also growing up in the church, it was,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: I was immersed on the planet of fine and evil and the evil aspect of things seem more fascinating to me as a result of the good,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the nice seems so unreachable. So, for…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I was relating more to the dark facet again. Not that I wanted to go. Anyone. however how that mind labored and every thing from intercourse habit to violence to so on and it's fascinating as a end result of it almost
Joshua Berglan: We are so fragile as people but. At the same time, we are expected and even To have all of this power and understanding of their id. But yet every little thing that we seem to encounter on this life in this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to be an assault on our identification, to maintain us from understanding who we really are. Am I really far off here or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. No.
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Joshua Berglan: straight somewhere close.
Sophia Burrell: And, I was listening to a podcast, some weeks in the past and the particular person said, Psychology is a delicate science. As if it is not essential or it was like on the mind in the significance of what psychology is. And I felt insulted that he stated that, it may be delicate science. I imply I guess to a degree however I mean psychology results every thing.
Joshua Berglan: Everything.
Sophia Burrell: Doesn't it? Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I'm at this place now the place I consider that our thoughts, I shifted my perception about lots of issues a couple of 12 months ago and I started to Kind of come to this place the place the Garden of Eden tennis Okay. The Garden of Eden.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to me to be the brain. and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: that might be far off and that I might go off on a tangent on this. But there appears to be this warfare on our mind, your imaginative and prescient tv programming. after we get into this kind of stuff, and I'm actually into thoughts control. And I've read lots of books on this.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, my games. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I'm tying our external stimuli. All of the totally different programming.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: All of the completely different entertainment are multi-screen entertainment. It's on each potential gadget that we will get some kind of content material to fill our minds with. And what do we choose to do that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And so it seems like we're programming ourselves, and I'm starting to work this belief that lots of these books and flicks and different things from the past years previous that were showing us a future. it is nearly like we by watching this stuff and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: talking about it or manifesting these realities that Hum from our tv. Is it,…
Sophia Burrell: So funny.
Joshua Berglan: what do you consider that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, it's so humorous. You ought to say that because I was watching the History Channel some weeks ago. And this fascination that Americans have with breakfast being egg and bacon. that was somebody's a advertising.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Look
Sophia Burrell: Tactic some many years ago. what that was marketing and…
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: individuals simply bought into it and it's a pure thing for individuals now nevertheless it was a marketing ploy. I do not know, I do not bear in mind what decade but possibly within the 1900 somewhere however I mean, the way that advertising worked, we now do not even notice that there was somebody's thought. Of us,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it's crazy.
Sophia Burrell: it is loopy, isn't it?
Joshua Berglan: And then I imply I would think of boot campaigns
Sophia Burrell: That wasn't much. I think it was a advertising ploy to sell more eggs or one thing like that. I don't fairly bear in mind but it was a advertising ploy.
Joshua Berglan: I keep in mind Pork, the other white meat that marketing campaign when that got here out. I mean,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, you are right. There's one thing to that. I mean, they've accomplished it with cigarettes. I imply,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: So okay. why you bought into psychology and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: But the gamification.
Sophia Burrell: Mm-hmm
Joshua Berglan: So I interviewed somebody and the timing of that is so fascinating as a outcome of simply last week, I interviewed, someone a tremendous girl, her title is Ashton and what she does is she goes into transfer into enterprise meetings, and it might work with school too, however she simply will get sharpies and markers and she's drawing and sketching throughout this assembly and what she creates for the people which might be a part of this assembly is that this visual illustration of that meeting that for some reason, these pictures that she attracts helps everybody in that Get the full benefit of what that assembly was supposed to be out and…
Sophia Burrell: wow.
Joshua Berglan: it by some means brings all of them together. And I thought, that is really attention-grabbing. And I didn't perceive any of it ly, and I nonetheless don't fully understand it.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But what you're doing? Is wish to me and I'm not placing down what Ashton does. It all? Because I love Ashton. It's actually certainly one of my favorite individuals on the planet now. however you are taking, But sort of what that's, however you're doing one thing far. Almost. It feels deeper and it seems like this process and you right me if I'm mistaken as a end result of I have not read any research or studies, nevertheless it seems like by these custom board video games which might be centered across the particular person, the brand, the identification, the business, it's helping, then get into the unconscious of who's enjoying their recreation. Okay, explain…
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Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: what you do now for the audience. So I do not, but
Sophia Burrell: So I am fascinated with this gamification process and it began by chance actually in 2018. my door, I was struggling in my enterprise and my eldest thought of me making a business kit for my enterprise. now, we went online and have a glance at examples, but none of them appear to Fit what I was doing. But we have been brainstorming all morning and what to do and, my model is the Victory acronym. I'm unsure you are aware of that. So my brand is a victory acronym. And we have been trying to determine how we are ready to create a business equipment round this acronym. and a board game idea got here out of that brainstorming session with my daughter.
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: And I created Conferences At first, it was called Victory Trail Game. Utilizing all the traits inside the acronym, so I'm not sure…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: if you know that, So I use the phrase victory as an acronym where each letter represents a permanent high quality or attribute that essential to victory. And so, that was what my first recreation was about these seven attributes. And so I put C represents confidence. And that was in the heart of the sport. So that was my first sport and I used to go into faculty, I was in Long Island on the time and I would go to Suffolk County and ship Joseph's faculty and have Display the game and get their suggestions. And so my love of gamification started based on that. earlier this yr, I was hanging out a lot with them. It's a friend of mine right here. He owns a plumbing firm in Harlem. And I considered
Sophia Burrell: He has been good to me, And I thought of doing one thing for him in as a payback principally and that created a game for him however just the sport relies on his business. What he does. So there are four areas that people name them about on a regular basis. Overflowing rest room overflow, sewer, overflow kitchen sink overflow, and no warmth. And I created a sport based on these 4. Services. And that was where. Building board games for others came about.
Joshua Berglan: So, you constructed the sport form. Does he promote the sport to his customers?
Sophia Burrell: No. No,…
Joshua Berglan: How does that work?
Sophia Burrell: the sport was alleged to be for his staff because there are some lower degree employees…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: who must know the basics of plumbing. And so the game was very in-depth. It's not only for enjoyable. The sport was a studying software as well, however I did a deep dive into plumbing to create that recreation. so for any of his employees are enjoying the game, they're learning one thing about tips on how to do. Certain basic stuff employment.
Joshua Berglan: So okay, so if I was a broadcaster, What type of game would you create for a broadcaster or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: am I making a reward of secrets and techniques by asking this question? Okay.
Sophia Burrell: No, in fact So I imply a broadcaster. So what we attempt to do in our game growth, is to use the corporate's story, and their model message and weave that into the narrative of the sport. So I must know the story of this broadcaster.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I must know what their model message is. and that's the premise of constructing a story within the game.
Joshua Berglan: So what type of like clearly this is effective since you're working in Africa, the UK Australia, the United States, I miss…
Sophia Burrell: Let me right you there,…
Joshua Berglan: Europe.
Sophia Burrell: is that? okay, so I build the game for somebody within the UK, But I'm the reason…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience : why I mentioned Australia and Africa is as a end result of I'm trademarked in plenty of international locations. So, it isn't that I actually worked there or…
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Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: it is not that. I constructed some sport for somebody there, however I'm trademarked all over the world. and it's the idea. And the explanation why I did that also is as a result of I'm involved working in these areas. I'm thinking about working in these nations, so a trademark my stuff there. So, after I get there, there isn't any confusion, That's what she does and I'm not intervening in other people's. Brand. So, I secured my spot in some international locations and I don't truly work there.
Joshua Berglan: Fair sufficient. But it is too okay. Then both method that really I'm extra impressed by that you've the foresight in the perception and the vision to know that you are going to be doing enterprise there. So you prepared I love that now good.
Sophia Burrell: M- which is why it was fascinating. When I construct this sport for Guy in London, I really felt Somewhat comfy as a outcome of I'm trademark there. My book is in the library's there.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I feel it is like, I have all that is those things set up there way before, I visited The place.
Joshua Berglan: What, I'm the world's mayor and…
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: I haven't been everywhere in the world but and I'm not officially the world's mayor but, however I own the area. And but I even have a worldwide imaginative and prescient. I have a coronary heart for group And this nickname…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: how I happened, it don't need to go into the story, however I even have a global vision that I am obsessed with in most of the place my imaginative and prescient takes place. I even have never seen a picture of apart from a photo. I imply I've seen footage of it but never been I really have pals and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: people that I know from there, these locations throughout Africa is considered one of them including South Africa. Since I was a child, I've had these desires.
Joshua Berglan: Of working there and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yes,…
Joshua Berglan: serving there. and…
Sophia Burrell: me too.
Joshua Berglan: I'm and…
Joshua Berglan: I've been obsessive about that. My whole life haven't been there yet. But again, my mindset my targets, and the way I wish to influence the world. it is fitting of that nickname. So it is like I'm simply gonna step into that go properly with each time the Creator permits it to occur,…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yes.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however every little thing I do is to maneuver in the direction of that aim.
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yeah. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Let me ask you this, what type of mindset for you as a your psychiatrist? Correct. It's
Sophia Burrell: I'm not a psychiatrist. I have a master's Insideology.
Joshua Berglan: That's okay. I needed to thank you for clarifying. I'm making an attempt to go off of every little thing. I keep in mind from reading and I haven't got notes with me so I'm going off reminiscence.
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But that type of background. What is your mindset? when you have this big goal on this massive dream however you are not there yet. What keeps you going? Every day pursuing that objective.
Sophia Burrell: what retains me going is, from, for many years I've all the time stated, as a matter of truth, I stated this in highschool And I keep in mind writing it down in one of the back of my e-book. Before I die, I need the world to know who Sophia Burrell was. And pay attention,…
Joshua Berglan: Why?
Sophia Burrell: I do not know why I mentioned it at the time. But that was just one thing within me. And since I realized that I've been living my life chasing this That assertion earlier than I die.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I need folks to know who I am. I do not wish to be. this obscure determine that nobody knows about, And I assume that was what drove me additionally to trademark in all the countries that I even have. Because my books as a outcome of let you know what, I did, So drew the pandemic. What I did was I ordered 20 copies of my guide. And I mailed it to libraries in, I don't know, maybe in Five Libraries in Africa. In the UK and some locations in the Caribbean. And I think that is so, okay, I'm gonna provide the story.
Joshua Berglan: What a fantastic idea.
Sophia Burrell: The first time so was so, I went to Europe in March, right? And my flight.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
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Sophia Burrell: I was going straight to Paris my enterprise partner lives in Paris. And so I had a connecting flight in London. But as a end result of Paris had a strike, the flights were canceled between London and Paris, and so I needed to stay over in London for the night. So I'm strolling round looking for an inexpensive place to remain here and I hold passing this library, which it was near, the Victoria coach station. And I had one copy of my e-book. And I mentioned,…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: You know what? I'm gonna go in there. So I know, I went to book the room first, put my stuff down, after which I went back to the library and advised them that I asked the man who was on the entrance desk. I said is it potential to have put my e-book on the catalog that you have here? He was giving me a narrative, some excuses about. The Library of Congress and all that stuff. And I mentioned, okay, and I was truly working out. When I remember that I did mail some books to London. went again to him and I said, I did mail some books to some libraries in London. Could you just examine in case you have it on your catalog already? And he checked. And my e-book. Is in the library system in London.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I was so shocked as a outcome of I mean I just did this actually you…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: sending my books. I just went online to search out some library addresses and mail my book with a notice on it and so they put my book on their catalog. So, game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience think having that mindset from that point. Is what drove me for is driving me to do this stuff as a result of I do not wish to move and nobody is conscious of who Sophia Burrell was. So I'm all the time say to my youngsters. if I die today. my books will nonetheless be within the libraries. and years from now, individuals will still be, studying my guide
Joshua Berglan: I'm gonna ask you a personal question. Because I actually have the same need,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I would word it in another way.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: My phrases would sound totally different nevertheless it means the same exact thing.
Joshua Berglan: And I say till I need to be well-known, but well-known for the right reasons not famous as I was an actor. I wish to be well-known for the work that I do for other folks and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I help people And that is the legacy that I want to depart, but I wish to be famous for making other people. Famous, that's…
Sophia Burrell: as a matter of fact,…
Joshua Berglan: what I need.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you use that phrase, sorry that I always use as properly, I think having This imaginative and prescient. it's about leaving a legacy and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: you simply use that phrase. it is actually about legacy. It's not me wanting to be famous.
Joshua Berglan: And after I say famous once more, it's not from an ego place. It's for the Famous people have wasted an opportunity to do so a lot rattling good on the earth. And they have energy powers more important than money…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a end result of energy offers you affect.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: When you have energy, you'll have the ability to stroll into a room and you can make things occur. And I am tired of watching individuals endure.
Sophia Burrell: Nothing. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I am uninterested in watching voices being drowned out by a corporate media with an agenda. There is no room for reality in this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: or a minimal of. That's what individuals assume. Therefore, they silence themselves.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Or some people do not even know the way to use their voice and so they're intimidated to make use of their voice because of what happens to them when they speak the reality. And I drives me nuts and I want to be a half of that change. considered one of my objectives in life is to be a half of it. I know I can't do it alone, however I need to be one of the
Joshua Berglan: Influential fact, that one of the influences behind shattering, the facility that lies in the palms of some of the media,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I wish to shatter into millions of people of pieces to offer the power to hundreds of thousands of individuals and spread it out as a result of that method different individuals will have a chance to get their voices heard. And the truth,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: although there might be room for reality. And I don't imagine that we will heal this battle between races and religions and everything else. So we have absolutely the fact and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: we do not have that proper now.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, I agree. one has to marvel, why is it that when folks come into money they maintain on to it. So tightly where they'd by no means assist. A group or help another individual or usually marvel and I know have a look at Jeff Bridge, Jeff Bezos for example. I do not bear in mind how much is yacht. He has a yard that is price, I do not know 15 million or one thing like that. And I'm like I imply, is that more important than sending half of that to some Third World nation to help them or I do not know.
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Sophia Burrell: maybe if I even have that type of money that I'll suppose in one other way. I'm unsure. But it looks as if there's so much waste when that money Could be more helpful someplace elsewhere in the world.
Joshua Berglan: I was watching a YouTube video a couple of month in the past and it was about they were displaying this warehouse that the Saudi prince had That he had every make and model of each single automobile ever made in those cars, simply set there. And the rationale I heard that that they had that Was as a result of they have to spend that cash or they get taxed to dying or one thing like that. Like they need that.
Sophia Burrell: Always.
Joshua Berglan: Those depreciating assets, that was the reason I heard and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it kind of makes sense, however at the same time, there's still a hundred billion dollars and you've got got God is conscious of what sort of credit. you would go rebuild some communities, there is no cause for homelessness.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: In America in any respect, there's none. But but we've a homeless epidemic growing
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. individuals. Was additionally saying that Jamaica is indeed crime ridden. And what I mean? I lost my chain of thought. Okay, so people will say lots of adverse issues about the Caribbean Jamaican specific. But there are poverty right here in America. That's worse than the Jamaica, I…
Joshua Berglan: Really. I have not been to Jamaica so I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: don't you find?
Joshua Berglan: But I lived in Los Angeles. I've lived in Vegas. I've lived all over California in San Diego too.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Right.
Joshua Berglan: I've spent a lot time in San Francisco and I have a heart for the homeless neighborhood.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Right.
Joshua Berglan: So I've done plenty of work with them over there, even right here that is near me in Minneapolis. and I've seen some issues that are like that is in America, it's skid row level,…
Sophia Burrell: There's not.
Joshua Berglan: you could have all of those kids operating around and…
Sophia Burrell: .
Joshua Berglan: it's like, How is this allowed? So I do not know…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: what it is like there to have the flexibility to comment on it, however I do know. It's some pretty sketchy stuff right here.
Sophia Burrell: the homelessness in Jamaica Is nowhere close to what was occurring in LA. You…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: and So I grew up in Jamaica.
Sophia Burrell: I truly have. And So I know that Jamaica is a tropical place. it is warm year spherical. And so there's so many fruits there to eat. It's like You cannot really go hungry. I go to my grandmother's place and there's a cashew tree at the back, there's apple tree, There's guinea, there's Star Pool. There's banana. All those things are in my grandmother's backyard, so it is like a,…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: you can't go hungry. Maybe there are folks there who're going hungry but it was not my experience.
Joshua Berglan: I assume that Jamaica's featured on this e-book, referred to as Happiness within the Blue Zones, Do you know about this…
Sophia Burrell: yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: It's in regards to the happiest places on the Planet National Geographic, I suppose wrote the guide it.
Sophia Burrell: And Jamaica's lady.
Joshua Berglan: I think Jamaica is doubtless considered one of the locations that's listed as happiest on the world.
Sophia Burrell: No. Right.
Joshua Berglan: Costa Rica is one. Switzerland is another.
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: And they discuss there's high taxes. Yes. But all of, this is taken care of. and again, I do not keep in mind exactly.
Joshua Berglan: But I do think Jamaica was there. I know for sure. Costa Rica was too. And the only thing that I take into consideration, when you mentioned the fruit trees and every thing is that individuals stay day to day, they reside in the moment and they're grateful for what they've in the moment. And that appears to be this underlying throughout the board with all of those international locations and the blue zones. That everyone was grateful for what they had in the second that was the common theme amongst in any respect.
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Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And but in America, as a end result of we received to purchase the following thing. Gotta purchase the newest thing,…
Sophia Burrell: It's a tradition,…
Joshua Berglan: received It's a half of our tradition.
Sophia Burrell: it's the cultural factor I guess. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: You're right. How do you
Joshua Berglan: Because there's a little bit of a dopamine fix. When you purchase one thing new, or you get one thing new and exciting, however it goes away really fast.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: It's type of like doing a drug like cocaine where you get these jiffy of euphoria after which s***. I got to do another one. And one other one.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And when that has become a culture? and an identification, even How do you reverse that or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: does it just need to be broken…
Sophia Burrell: What I mean?
Joshua Berglan: but isn't it funny? I don't know.
Sophia Burrell: Even if it's broken, there should be some resolution however I don't know. So there's certain things that are so steeped within the American tradition. it is gonna be hard to fix, So I don't know tips on how to answer that.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, I always think of, there's a pastor in America, his title's TD Jakes, He, …
Sophia Burrell: I love him.
Joshua Berglan: he's recognized for saying the blessing is in the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. sure.
Joshua Berglan: my so every time and that's in the end after I heard that it kind of made me addicted to
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I know that is gonna damage but I'm doing it. Anyway and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. He?
Joshua Berglan: not bodily hurt, but emotionally hurt where this is one other example of me needing to die to myself. This is one other part of killing part of my ego.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is I do not wish to talk about this, however I want to talk about Whatever it's. going by way of that pain,…
Sophia Burrell: But that's a mindset. Mm-hmm.
Joshua Berglan: facing that enormous going to slay, that dragon is painful and brutal as the expertise may be. There's blessings all up in it, it is
Sophia Burrell: Yes, and, I assume, that was a mindset shift, proper learning that from him and…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: it's shifted me as nicely. I keep in mind that sermon. I nonetheless take heed to him. Constantly, I love TD Jakes. he has a method of wording issues that simply makes it so easy To perceive and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I 100 percent agree.
Sophia Burrell: to Lots of takeaways from his sermons.
Joshua Berglan: And what he does I mean As a businessman too, like his data of media.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I was inspiring for me, he followed the identical format in a blueprint like Oprah going.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: He was independent media earlier than impartial media turned a thing and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: he lined all of the bases music and books and speaking in movie and production and he was covering all the bases. So he was a huge influence for me, sort of across the board, not even just in ministry,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however as a businessman as an leisure and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a media, he was a massive affect, but I heard him converse at the Rock church in San Diego. He was selling his e-book sore.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: And Soar was one other one of the books the place they talk about the blessing, being of the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, yes.
Joshua Berglan: and it modified my life and one of the examples that he gave and I'd wish to get your comments on this, but he was speaking about An airplane that is just misplaced a wing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: It's coming down and pilot. it could do certainly one of two things. my God,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: I got
Sophia Burrell: panic.
Joshua Berglan: I've got one wing, I'm touchdown this airplane. I'm getting everybody house safely.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is what I received and it was concentrate on the things. You do have it.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, exactly.
Joshua Berglan: Not what you observe.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: That?
Sophia Burrell: love that.
Joshua Berglan: That was the story. if you hear What does that imply to you?
Sophia Burrell: I type of live my life additionally based on a few of the stuff you say I assume I'm knowledgeable optimist.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: And folks could be aggravated with me too being this optimistic. It's like no one wants to be around an optimistic particular person on an everyday basis. If something goes incorrect, I'm like, what is this supposed to mean? what is God's larger plan? Why He has put me through this difficulty?
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: That's all I think, however touching back on t. There's one thing that TG Jakes stated, he has so many nuggets out there. But This one, he mentioned nobody would have identified Jesus. If it wasn't for Judas Right.
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: Because Judas betrayed Jesus. That's What created this thing around Jesus, So, it is do not Feel offended if you're betrayed or if people do not such as you're being criticized. Maybe that is a blessing in disguise. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: There was one other saying that was about betrayal and blessings but you'll find a way to't have the blessing with out betrayal or one thing like that. In another one that I love,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: that didn't come from TD Jakes. I first heard it from Ed Mylett and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. …
Joshua Berglan: that's life occurs for you.
Sophia Burrell: I love the mallet.
Sophia Burrell: Hello guys.
Joshua Berglan: I interviewed him three or…
Joshua Berglan: 4 years ago and I had one of the best time here.
Sophia Burrell: You need you?
Joshua Berglan: Do I?
Sophia Burrell: He stated it met him. did…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I interviewed him. yeah,…
Sophia Burrell: Wow.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, it I was when I was residing in LA and He was great.
Sophia Burrell: My goodness. No, I'm jealous.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up.
Sophia Burrell: I'm so jealous of that.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up on his relationship with God and I received him to speak in another way than he normally does an interviews and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it was great however I received kicked off of YouTube and so I lost that I interviewed somewhere, but I lost it anyway…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however he is an incredible guy however he stated that too in that very same stuck out to my head as a result of every time something bad occurred. I developed this mindset of going.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I know that is happening for me.
Sophia Burrell: For four reasons.
Joshua Berglan: I auditioned for the Miami heat, I can now say it. I to do TV for them and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: audition and I just discovered that I did not get it. somebody else's obtained the gig and my first response was Something higher is coming from me. I received one thing better and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I actually didn't even really want the job as a result of I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan however it will have been a great alternative. But my immediate reaction was Something God's got something better for me and…
Sophia Burrell: Of course.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I would have never had that mindset if I did not hear four years ago, life happens for you.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, after all. Yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: Because I'm not a sufferer and every little thing is figuring out in my favor.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, your favor.
Joshua Berglan: God has proven that every single day of my life and even after I was not even strolling with God, Looking back at it. When I should have most likely been killed,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: God should have just taken me out. He was still lining my paths, and with all of the hardship, all the wrestle, all of that. It's all turned out to be a blessing. Every little bit of it.
Sophia Burrell: Do you recall this different sermon that he had concerning the storm? so typically No,…
Joshua Berglan: How eagles rise above the storm? and…
Sophia Burrell: no, we're not.
Joshua Berglan: it was, are you talking about How an eagle makes use of the storm to rise above?
Sophia Burrell: yeah, I know but that one, too, however that is not the one I'm referred to. So,
Joshua Berglan: that is Miles Monroe. They did that one. Okay, good.
Sophia Burrell: so he stated, Sometimes, when a the storm would not come to hurt you. The storm involves possibly redirect your path. Yeah, right.
Joshua Berglan: I like that one, too.
Joshua Berglan: I, Man, what a life. You're so enjoyable to talk to. I'm so glad that you just came on.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you do.
Joshua Berglan: I want you to, I mean, we could just hold talking for hours, but I would love so that you can please plug your small business plug where individuals can comply with you, where folks can get their sport made and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: and simply share anything that is in your heart.
Sophia Burrell: It's Sophia Burrell. I N T L. Dot com. That's the internet site. And I even have a course called Gamify Your objectives. And I just lately modified it to gamify your self. So the course relies on the victory acronym, we spoke of earlier. And you can sign up there at gamify your goals.com.
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Joshua Berglan: Excellent, do you've any last words? Okay. Sophia.
Sophia Burrell: That's it good to meet you, Joshua.
Joshua Berglan: You are a blessing. I'm so glad we obtained to speak and I look ahead to getting to know you more All…
Sophia Burrell: Thank you a lot. Have an excellent day. Bye.
Joshua Berglan: Thank you..