Gamification Expert Sophia Burrell Explores the Power of Storytelling and Engagement
In this engaging episode of "Conversations with Joshua T Berglan," host Joshua Berglan interviews special visitor Sophia Burrell, a multi-talented skilled with a background in psychology and expertise within the subject of gamification. Sophia shares her fascinating journey and insights on how she creates custom board games centered round a person, brand, or business, serving to them connect with their viewers on a deeper degree.
Together, Sophia and Joshua dive deep into matters corresponding to mindset, legacy, the power of media, and the importance of gratitude. Their insightful dialog highlights the potential for private growth and constructive change through the facility of storytelling and gamification. Viewers shall be left inspired to explore new ways of participating with their audience and leaving a significant legacy.
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Sophia Burrell
Founder/CEO/Board Game Designer
Sophia Burrell International, Inc.
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Transcript
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Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: okay, Sophia Burrell, you're Inspiring to me. And I simply need to tell you that.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, thanks.
Joshua Berglan: when I obtained your email on LinkedIn, I looked over it and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: And Even though, I didn't perceive every little thing that you had been doing. I just had this strong feeling that you were doing one thing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I went digging. and the extra I've learned about you, the extra I am humbled to talk to you. welcome to conversations with Joshua,…
Sophia Burrell: Thank…
Joshua Berglan: T-barg one.
game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience : I am blessed to have you ever here.
Sophia Burrell: Thank you.
Sophia Burrell: I'm good to meet you.
Joshua Berglan: Where are you at right now? Because you do business everywhere in the world but you are an East coast now too. You're?
Sophia Burrell: I'm in Queens At the second. I lately move from Long Island So I'm in Queens proper now attempting to I'm gonna be transitioning.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: So this is my transition phase. So I'm here temporarily in Queens. New York.
Joshua Berglan: No and where you are going once more.
Sophia Burrell: I initially lived in Long Island, are you familiar with New York?
Joshua Berglan: Okay. I am,…
Joshua Berglan: I Love New York.
Sophia Burrell: Okay, I lived in Long Island. And I know I imply Queens briefly but I'm considering of upstate New York or…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: Connecticut. Because I am probably not a metropolis particular person.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I don't really like New York City, I hate the group I hate house living. Let's put it that means, the place there's someone above you under,…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: you left, and proper of It's not something that I like a lot. So I'm transitioning to either join to chop or upstate.
Joshua Berglan: Connecticut is beautiful too, so It is after I was in healthcare,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes, I know. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the enterprise that we sold out to, we bought our household enterprise, to a giant nationwide company, and they were wager primarily based in Connecticut.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: So I received to go up there for the primary time and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: What an unreal place. So I mean, it is beautiful But there was additionally an element to it that I felt like I was 20 years again in time, and…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Okay.
Joshua Berglan: then there was some areas where I felt like I was 200 years again in time so the Northeast is a really attention-grabbing part of the United States but
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Im No, I was pondering of staying closer to the city which is Fairfield County So I don't need to go wherever past that.
Joshua Berglan: Mm- Okay. Okay. …
Sophia Burrell: So yeah.
Joshua Berglan: you have an accent.
Sophia Burrell: I'm originally from Jamaica. I came to the US three months after 9/11,…
Joshua Berglan: okay.
Sophia Burrell: imagine it or not. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I'm gonna question then. that's fascinating, I didn't know that about What was that coming to America at that time as a end result of that time for anybody who lived in America was, they could in all probability look again and say, that is when everything changed. But coming to America,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: At that time. What was that like for you?
Sophia Burrell: It's not something that I think about really because it relates to 9-11 because it by no means really affected me here or…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: there to be trustworthy with you because I am from another place. I…
Joshua Berglan: Sure.
Sophia Burrell: I wasn't American and so it affected me in another way. So, I mean, I came to the US and New York specifically and I simply hit the ground operating. I would go to Wall Street space, looking for work and everywhere in the city and it didn't have an result on me, really? To be honest with you, That. But I did understand the magnitude of…
Joshua Berglan: No, that is
Sophia Burrell: what had occurred.
Joshua Berglan: From what I understand about it. I've been to primarily Jamaican areas like in Costa Rica but not truly Jamaica. And so I've heard you…
Sophia Burrell: I see.
Joshua Berglan: different stereotypes. I mean I've seen pictures of Jamaica which may be absolutely lovely but then you definitely hear of a number of the violence and other things that happens drug trade.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Is that? What rising up like and once more, I don't know if you grew up around the violence. I do not know any of that stuff. But when you come from a spot like that,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: that has that type of reputation or stereotype to it, being from there, how does that make you feel?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I imply it would not make me really feel any means totally different. I mean it is not like the violence was right in my yard or something,
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I was having a dialog with somebody a couple of days in the past And I keep in mind in Jamaica, I attended highschool. I was an athlete. I was the fastest lady a woman in my college and every morning we needed to meet on the National Stadium for coaching. And I would depart the home at 5 am in the mornings. Throughout high school. And it daybreak on me, I assume earlier this 12 months, that it was so harmful for me to try this, however I just by no means thought of it that way. Because game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience would have to meet on the stadium at six o'clock and…
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: would have to go away the house at 5:00. Walk to the bus stop. And take that bus, I don't know, possibly about 30 minutes drive and meet the team there. And so, In the violence wasn't necessarily in my backyard. Because I mean, I did that throughout highschool and I wasn't in danger or something. I survived it.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I am. And that is fascinating as a outcome of I've heard just about the identical thing from other people who come from locations with stereotypical tons of violence, and crime and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: gangs, and I've heard the same thing. And then in my own experience and I've lived in primarily huge cities, and I've been surrounded by craziness and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: violence, and poverty, and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Right.
Joshua Berglan: homelessness and drug use and all of the stuff that comes with Living in a major metropolis. But when you're there, you're simply residing and What?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, you simply dwelling and my thoughts there are neighborhoods that are well-known for being, there areas…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: where there are violence but I did not stay in those neighborhoods. So, you…
Joshua Berglan: Or hang on the market.
Sophia Burrell: I didn't experience it right now,…
Sophia Burrell: be up what? I'm sorry.
Joshua Berglan: I said We're hanging out there,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I received it. So with your background in psychology, And, after all, the gamification of life that you just provide you with. And Is just so neat,…
Sophia Burrell: No, I by no means did. So
Sophia Burrell: yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however what led you into the field of psychology?
Sophia Burrell:
Sophia Burrell: I'm unsure there's something about studying about human habits and how the you're thinking impacts your behavior and all that type of stuff. I don't know. I was at all times fascinated by it and I did rather well. I imply there's one thing that I'm always slightly Nervous about sharing isn't. I did my grasp's online. University of Phoenix and so I don't know. For some cause, there's a little stigma to that but I did my psychology diploma online and…
Joshua Berglan: Really.
Sophia Burrell: did very nicely. I got a very excessive GPA I suppose as a result of I was so interested in All the matters of psychology. I do not know. I loved it. And so,…
Joshua Berglan: I was.
Sophia Burrell: yeah. Go ahead.
Joshua Berglan: I was drawn to it, always too, and I couldn't clarify why. I didn't even enjoy studying. I don't get pleasure from studying that a lot. But in relation to issues about…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: how our thoughts works, how I was drawn to,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: criminals and psychopaths, and serial killers, and never that I wished to be one. nevertheless it,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however ultimately, Because I went through my own trauma and, abuse and other issues. And I do not want to enter my story now.
Joshua Berglan: But I noticed plenty of issues growing up that had been dark and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: evil and conflicting with also rising up in the church, it was,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: I was immersed on the planet of excellent and evil and the evil side of issues seem extra fascinating to me because the good,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: the nice seems so unreachable. So, for…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I was relating extra to the darkish side once more. Not that I needed to go. Anyone. but how that mind labored and everything from sex habit to violence to so on and it's fascinating as a result of it nearly
Joshua Berglan: We are so fragile as people yet. At the identical time, we are anticipated and even To have all of this power and figuring out of their id. But yet every thing that we seem to come across on this life in this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to be an assault on our id, to keep us from figuring out who we actually are. Am I really far off here or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. No.
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Joshua Berglan: straight somewhere close.
Sophia Burrell: And, I was listening to a podcast, some weeks ago and the person mentioned, Psychology is a delicate science. As if it's not necessary or it was like on the thoughts within the significance of what psychology is. And I felt insulted that he mentioned that, it might be delicate science. I mean I guess to a level however I mean psychology effects every thing.
Joshua Berglan: Everything.
Sophia Burrell: Doesn't it? Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I'm at this place now where I believe that our mind, I shifted my belief about a lot of things a few year ago and I began to Kind of come to this place the place the Garden of Eden tennis Okay. The Garden of Eden.
Joshua Berglan: Seems to me to be the brain. and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: that might be far off and that I could go off on a tangent on this. But there seems to be this warfare on our mind, your vision tv programming. once we get into this sort of stuff, and I'm really into mind control. And I've read plenty of books on this.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, my games. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I'm tying our external stimuli. All of the different programming.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: All of the different entertainment are multi-screen entertainment. It's on each attainable system that we can get some type of content to fill our minds with. And what do we choose to do that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And so it seems like we are programming ourselves, and I'm beginning to work this belief that plenty of these books and movies and other issues from the past years previous that have been showing us a future. it's virtually like we by watching this stuff and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: talking about it or manifesting these realities that Hum from our tv. Is it,…
Sophia Burrell: So funny.
Joshua Berglan: what do you assume about that?
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, it is so humorous. You should say that as a result of I was watching the History Channel some weeks ago. And this fascination that Americans have with breakfast being egg and bacon. that was somebody's a marketing.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. Look
Sophia Burrell: Tactic some many years in the past. what that was advertising and…
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: people simply bought into it and it is a pure thing for people now but it was a advertising ploy. I do not know, I don't keep in mind what decade however maybe in the 1900 someplace however I imply, the way in which that advertising worked, we now don't even notice that there was somebody's concept. Of us,…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, it is loopy.
Sophia Burrell: it's loopy, isn't it?
Joshua Berglan: And then I imply I would think of boot campaigns
Sophia Burrell: That wasn't much. I assume it was a advertising ploy to promote extra eggs or something like that. I don't quite keep in mind but it was a advertising ploy.
Joshua Berglan: I remember Pork, the other white meat that marketing campaign when that came out. I imply,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, you're proper. There's something to that. I mean, they've accomplished it with cigarettes. I imply,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: So okay. why you bought into psychology and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: But the gamification.
Sophia Burrell: Mm-hmm
Joshua Berglan: So I interviewed someone and the timing of this is so attention-grabbing as a outcome of simply last week, I interviewed, somebody a tremendous woman, her title is Ashton and what she does is she goes into move into enterprise meetings, and it will work with faculty too, but she just will get sharpies and markers and he or she's drawing and sketching during this assembly and what she creates for the people which might be part of this assembly is this visual illustration of that assembly that for some purpose, these photos that she draws helps everybody in that Get the full advantage of what that assembly was imagined to be out and…
Sophia Burrell: wow.
Joshua Berglan: it one means or the other brings all of them together. And I thought, that is really interesting. And I did not perceive any of it ly, and I nonetheless don't totally understand it.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But what you are doing? Is wish to me and I'm not putting down what Ashton does. It all? Because I love Ashton. It's really considered one of my favorite people on the planet now. but you take, But sort of what that is, however you are doing one thing far. Almost. It feels deeper and it looks like this process and also you right me if I'm wrong as a end result of I have not learn any research or research, however it feels like by these customized board games which are centered around the person, the brand, the id, the enterprise, it is serving to, then get into the subconscious of who's taking half in their game. Okay, explain…
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Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: what you do now for the audience. So I do not, however
Sophia Burrell: So I am fascinated with this gamification process and it started by chance truly in 2018. my door, I was struggling in my enterprise and my eldest thought of me making a enterprise kit for my business. now, we went online and look at examples, however none of them appear to Fit what I was doing. But we were brainstorming all morning and what to do and, my model is the Victory acronym. I'm not sure you're conscious of that. So my brand is a victory acronym. And we had been attempting to determine how we can create a business package around this acronym. and a board game idea came out of that brainstorming session with my daughter.
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: And I created Conferences At first, it was called Victory Trail Game. Utilizing all the traits inside the acronym, so I'm not sure…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: if you realize that, So I use the phrase victory as an acronym where every letter represents a permanent high quality or attribute that important to victory. And so, that was what my first recreation was about these seven attributes. And so I put C represents confidence. And that was within the center of the game. So that was my first game and I used to enter college, I was in Long Island at the time and I would go to Suffolk County and send Joseph's school and have Display the game and get their feedback. And so my love of gamification started primarily based on that. earlier this 12 months, I was hanging out a lot with them. It's a pal of mine right here. He owns a plumbing company in Harlem. And I thought of
Sophia Burrell: He has been good to me, And I considered doing one thing for him in as a payback basically and that created a sport for him however simply the sport is based on his enterprise. What he does. So there are 4 areas that people call them about all the time. Overflowing rest room overflow, sewer, overflow kitchen sink overflow, and no warmth. And I created a game primarily based on these 4. Services. And that was the place. Building board games for others happened.
game theory, gamification, Joshua T Berglan, shock jock, media, new media, business consulting, the worlds mayor, the worlds mayor experience : So, you constructed the sport form. Does he promote the game to his customers?
Sophia Burrell: No. No,…
Joshua Berglan: How does that work?
Sophia Burrell: the sport was supposed to be for his workers as a outcome of there are some lower stage employees…
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: who need to know the fundamentals of plumbing. And so the game was very in-depth. It's not just for fun. The game was a studying device as well, however I did a deep dive into plumbing to create that game. so for any of his staff are enjoying the game, they're studying one thing about the means to do. Certain primary stuff employment.
Joshua Berglan: So okay, so if I was a broadcaster, What kind of sport would you create for a broadcaster or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: am I giving away secrets and techniques by asking this question? Okay.
Sophia Burrell: No, after all So I imply a broadcaster. So what we attempt to do in our recreation improvement, is to use the company's story, and their brand message and weave that into the narrative of the game. So I would have to know the story of this broadcaster.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I must know what their model message is. and that's the premise of building a story in the game.
Joshua Berglan: So what sort of like clearly that is effective since you're working in Africa, the UK Australia, the United States, I miss…
Sophia Burrell: Let me appropriate you there,…
Joshua Berglan: Europe.
Sophia Burrell: is that? okay, so I construct the sport for somebody in the UK, But I'm the reason…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: why I mentioned Australia and Africa is because I'm trademarked in a lot of international locations. So, it is not that I actually labored there or…
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Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: it is not that. I built some sport for someone there, however I'm trademarked all round the world. and it's the idea. And the explanation why I did that additionally is because I'm fascinated working in these areas. I'm thinking about working in these countries, so a trademark my stuff there. So, after I get there, there isn't any confusion, That's what she does and I'm not intervening in other individuals's. Brand. So, I secured my spot in some countries and I don't actually work there.
Joshua Berglan: Fair sufficient. But it is too okay. Then both way that really I'm more impressed by that you have got the foresight in the perception and the vision to know that you're going to be doing enterprise there. So you ready I love that now good.
Sophia Burrell: M- which is why it was fascinating. When I construct this sport for Guy in London, I really felt Somewhat comfy as a result of I'm trademark there. My book is within the library's there.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: So I really feel it's like, I even have all that is these issues arrange there means before, I visited The place.
Joshua Berglan: What, I'm the world's mayor and…
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: I haven't been all round the world but and I'm not officially the world's mayor but, however I personal the domain. And but I have a global vision. I truly have a heart for group And this nickname…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: how I came about, it do not need to enter the story, but I have a worldwide vision that I am obsessed with in most of where my vision takes place. I truly have by no means seen an image of apart from a photo. I imply I've seen pictures of it however never been I even have associates and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: people who I know from there, these locations all over Africa is one of them together with South Africa. Since I was a toddler, I've had these dreams.
Joshua Berglan: Of working there and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yes,…
Joshua Berglan: serving there. and…
Sophia Burrell: me too.
Joshua Berglan: I'm and…
Joshua Berglan: I've been obsessed with that. My complete life haven't been there yet. But once more, my mindset my targets, and how I want to influence the world. it's becoming of that nickname. So it's like I'm simply gonna step into that suit each time the Creator permits it to occur,…
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yes.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however every thing I do is to move towards that goal.
Sophia Burrell: Mm- Yeah. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: Let me ask you this, what type of mindset for you as a your psychiatrist? Correct. It's
Sophia Burrell: I'm not a psychiatrist. I even have a master's Insideology.
Joshua Berglan: That's okay. I wanted to thanks for clarifying. I'm trying to go off of every thing. I remember from reading and I haven't got notes with me so I'm going off reminiscence.
Sophia Burrell: Okay. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: But that sort of background. What is your mindset? when you might have this huge aim on this huge dream but you are not there yet. What keeps you going? Every day pursuing that objective.
Sophia Burrell: what retains me going is, from, for many years I've always said, as a matter of reality, I said this in highschool And I keep in mind writing it down in one of many again of my e-book. Before I die, I need the world to know who Sophia Burrell was. And pay attention,…
Joshua Berglan: Why?
Sophia Burrell: I do not know why I stated it on the time. But that was just something within me. And since I realized that I've been living my life chasing this That statement earlier than I die.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I want people to know who I am. I do not wish to be. this obscure determine that nobody knows about, And I think that was what drove me also to trademark in all of the countries that I really have. Because my books because let you know what, I did, So drew the pandemic. What I did was I ordered 20 copies of my e-book. And I mailed it to libraries in, I do not know, possibly in Five Libraries in Africa. In the UK and a few places in the Caribbean. And I think that's so, okay, I'm gonna give you the story.
Joshua Berglan: What an excellent thought.
Sophia Burrell: The first time so was so, I went to Europe in March, right? And my flight.
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
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Sophia Burrell: I was going straight to Paris my business partner lives in Paris. And so I had a connecting flight in London. But because Paris had a strike, the flights have been canceled between London and Paris, and so I had to stay over in London for the evening. So I'm strolling around in search of an affordable place to remain here and I hold passing this library, which it was near, the Victoria coach station. And I had one copy of my e-book. And I said,…
Joshua Berglan: Okay.
Sophia Burrell: You know what? I'm gonna go in there. So I know, I went to guide the room first, put my stuff down, and then I went back to the library and told them that I asked the guy who was on the entrance desk. I stated is it possible to have put my e-book on the catalog that you have here? He was giving me a story, some excuses about. The Library of Congress and all that stuff. And I mentioned, okay, and I was really figuring out. When I remember that I did mail some books to London. went back to him and I mentioned, I did mail some books to some libraries in London. Could you just check in case you have it on your catalog already? And he checked. And my book. Is within the library system in London.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: I was so shocked as a end result of I imply I just did this really you…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: sending my books. I simply went online to search out some library addresses and mail my e-book with a note on it and so they put my guide on their catalog. So, I assume having that mindset from that time. Is what drove me for is driving me to do these items as a end result of I don't want to cross and no person is aware of who Sophia Burrell was. So I'm at all times say to my children. if I die right now. my books will nonetheless be in the libraries. and years from now, folks will nonetheless be, reading my e-book
Joshua Berglan: I'm gonna ask you a private question. Because I even have the same desire,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I would word it in one other way.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: My words would sound different but it means the identical precise factor.
Joshua Berglan: And I say till I need to be famous, but famous for the proper causes not famous as I was an actor. I wish to be well-known for the work that I do for other people and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I help people And that is the legacy that I wish to leave, however I wish to be famous for making other people. Famous, that's…
Sophia Burrell: as a matter of reality,…
Joshua Berglan: what I need.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you employ that word, sorry that I at all times use as properly, I suppose having This imaginative and prescient. it's about leaving a legacy and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: you just use that word. it's actually about legacy. It's not me desirous to be famous.
Joshua Berglan: And once I say well-known once more, it isn't from an ego place. It's for the Famous folks have wasted a possibility to do so a lot damn good on the planet. And they've energy powers more essential than money…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: because energy provides you affect.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: When you may have power, you'll have the ability to walk right into a room and you can make things occur. And I am uninterested in watching individuals undergo.
Sophia Burrell: Nothing. Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I am tired of watching voices being drowned out by a company media with an agenda. There isn't any room for truth on this world,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: or a minimum of. That's what folks suppose. Therefore, they silence themselves.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Or some folks don't even know the method to use their voice and so they're intimidated to make use of their voice due to what occurs to them after they communicate the truth. And I drives me nuts and I want to be a part of that change. certainly one of my targets in life is to be a part of it. I know I can't do it alone, however I want to be one of many
Joshua Berglan: Influential reality, that one of the influences behind shattering, the power that lies within the arms of a few of the media,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I need to shatter into tens of millions of people of items to give the power to millions of individuals and unfold it out because that way different individuals could have a possibility to get their voices heard. And the truth,…
Sophia Burrell: Right.
Joshua Berglan: although there shall be room for truth. And I do not imagine that we are ready to heal this battle between races and religions and every little thing else. So we now have the absolute fact and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: we don't have that right now.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah, I agree. one has to wonder, why is it that when people come into cash they maintain on to it. So tightly where they might never assist. A group or assist one other particular person or often wonder and I know look at Jeff Bridge, Jeff Bezos for instance. I don't remember how much is yacht. He has a yard that's value, I don't know 15 million or one thing like that. And I'm like I imply, is that more essential than sending half of that to some Third World country to help them or I don't know.
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Sophia Burrell: perhaps if I have that kind of cash that I'll suppose in another way. I'm not sure. But it looks like there's a lot waste when that money Could be more useful somewhere some place else on the earth.
Joshua Berglan: I was watching a YouTube video a couple of month ago and it was about they have been exhibiting this warehouse that the Saudi prince had That he had each make and model of each single automotive ever made in these automobiles, just set there. And the rationale I heard that they had that Was because they have to spend that money or they get taxed to dying or something like that. Like they want that.
Sophia Burrell: Always.
Joshua Berglan: Those depreciating belongings, that was the reason I heard and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it sort of makes sense, but at the similar time, there's nonetheless 100 billion dollars and you have God knows what kind of credit score. you could go rebuild some communities, there's no purpose for homelessness.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: In America in any respect, there's none. But but we've a homeless epidemic growing
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. folks. Was additionally saying that Jamaica is indeed crime ridden. And what I mean? I lost my chain of thought. Okay, so folks will say plenty of unfavorable issues about the Caribbean Jamaican explicit. But there are poverty here in America. That's worse than the Jamaica, I…
Joshua Berglan: Really. I have not been to Jamaica so I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: don't you find?
Joshua Berglan: But I lived in Los Angeles. I've lived in Vegas. I've lived throughout California in San Diego too.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Right.
Joshua Berglan: I've spent a lot time in San Francisco and I have a heart for the homeless group.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Right.
Joshua Berglan: So I've done lots of work with them over there, even here that's near me in Minneapolis. and I've seen some issues that are like that is in America, it is skid row level,…
Sophia Burrell: There's not.
Joshua Berglan: you've all of these youngsters working around and…
Sophia Burrell: .
Joshua Berglan: it is like, How is that this allowed? So I do not know…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: what it's like there to have the flexibility to touch upon it, but I do know. It's some pretty sketchy stuff right here.
Sophia Burrell: the homelessness in Jamaica Is nowhere near what was occurring in LA. You…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: and So I grew up in Jamaica.
Sophia Burrell: I have. And So I know that Jamaica is a tropical place. it's warm 12 months round. And so there's so many fruits there to eat. It's like You can't actually go hungry. I go to my grandmother's place and there's a cashew tree at the again, there's apple tree, There's guinea, there's Star Pool. There's banana. All those issues are in my grandmother's yard, so it's like a,…
Joshua Berglan: Wow.
Sophia Burrell: you can't go hungry. Maybe there are folks there who are going hungry but it was not my experience.
Joshua Berglan: I suppose that Jamaica's featured in this e-book, referred to as Happiness within the Blue Zones, Do you understand about this…
Sophia Burrell: yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: It's concerning the happiest places on the Planet National Geographic, I think wrote the e-book it.
Sophia Burrell: And Jamaica's girl.
Joshua Berglan: I suppose Jamaica is certainly one of the places that is listed as happiest on the world.
Sophia Burrell: No. Right.
Joshua Berglan: Costa Rica is one. Switzerland is another.
Sophia Burrell:
Joshua Berglan: And they speak about there's high taxes. Yes. But all of, that is taken care of. and once more, I don't bear in mind exactly.
Joshua Berglan: But I do assume Jamaica was there. I know for sure. Costa Rica was too. And the one factor that I take into consideration, whenever you talked about the fruit bushes and every little thing is that people stay everyday, they reside in the second and they are grateful for what they've in the moment. And that seems to be this underlying throughout the board with all of those countries and the blue zones. That everyone was grateful for what they had in the moment that was the common theme amongst in any respect.
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Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And yet in America, as a outcome of we got to buy the following thing. Gotta purchase the most recent thing,…
Sophia Burrell: It's a culture,…
Joshua Berglan: got It's a half of our tradition.
Sophia Burrell: it's the cultural factor I guess. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: You're proper. How do you
Joshua Berglan: Because there is a bit of a dopamine fix. When you purchase something new, or you get one thing new and exciting, but it goes away actually fast.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: It's type of like doing a drug like cocaine the place you get these few minutes of euphoria and then s***. I obtained to do another one. And one other one.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And when that has become a culture? and an identity, even How do you reverse that or…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: does it just need to be broken…
Sophia Burrell: What I mean?
Joshua Berglan: but is not it funny? I do not know.
Sophia Burrell: Even if it's broken, there should be some resolution but I do not know. So there's sure issues that are so steeped in the American tradition. it is gonna be onerous to fix, So I don't know the way to answer that.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, I all the time think of, there is a pastor in America, his title's TD Jakes, He, …
Sophia Burrell: I love him.
Joshua Berglan: he is known for saying the blessing is within the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes. sure.
Joshua Berglan: my so each time and that is ultimately once I heard that it kind of made me hooked on
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: Okay, I know this is gonna damage however I'm doing it. Anyway and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. He?
Joshua Berglan: not bodily harm, but emotionally harm the place that is one other example of me needing to die to myself. This is one other part of killing part of my ego.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is I do not want to talk about this, but I need to talk about Whatever it's. going by way of that ache,…
Sophia Burrell: But that is a mindset. Mm-hmm.
Joshua Berglan: going through that giant going to slay, that dragon is painful and brutal because the expertise could also be. There's blessings all up in it, it's
Sophia Burrell: Yes, and, I suppose, that was a mindset shift, right studying that from him and…
Joshua Berglan: Mmm.
Sophia Burrell: it is shifted me as nicely. I do not forget that sermon. I still hearken to him. Constantly, I love TD Jakes. he has a means of wording things that simply makes it so easy To understand and…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah. I one hundred pc agree.
Sophia Burrell: to Lots of takeaways from his sermons.
Joshua Berglan: And what he does I imply As a businessman too, like his data of media.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I was inspiring for me, he adopted the same format in a blueprint like Oprah going.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: He was unbiased media earlier than impartial media became a factor and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: he covered all the bases music and books and talking in film and manufacturing and he was covering all of the bases. So he was an enormous influence for me, kind of throughout the board, not even just in ministry,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: however as a businessman as an leisure and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: as a media, he was a massive influence, however I heard him communicate on the Rock church in San Diego. He was promoting his e-book sore.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: And Soar was one other one of the books where they speak about the blessing, being of the breaking.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, yes.
Joshua Berglan: and it modified my life and one of the examples that he gave and I'd prefer to get your feedback on this, but he was talking about An airplane that is simply misplaced a wing.
Sophia Burrell: Okay.
Joshua Berglan: It's coming down and pilot. it can do one of two issues. my God,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: I received
Sophia Burrell: panic.
Joshua Berglan: I've got one wing, I'm touchdown this plane. I'm getting everyone residence safely.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: This is what I obtained and it was concentrate on the issues. You do have it.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, exactly.
Joshua Berglan: Not what you observe.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah yeah,…
Joshua Berglan: That?
Sophia Burrell: love that.
Joshua Berglan: That was the story. whenever you hear What does that mean to you?
Sophia Burrell: I type of stay my life additionally based on some of the stuff you say I suppose I'm a professional optimist.
Joshua Berglan:
Sophia Burrell: And individuals could be irritated with me too being this optimistic. It's like nobody needs to be around an optimistic individual on an everyday basis. If one thing goes mistaken, I'm like, what is that this imagined to mean? what's God's larger plan? Why He has put me by way of this difficulty?
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Joshua Berglan: Yeah.
Sophia Burrell: That's all I assume, but touching back on t. There's something that TG Jakes said, he has so many nuggets on the market. But This one, he said nobody would have recognized Jesus. If it wasn't for Judas Right.
Joshua Berglan: That's true.
Sophia Burrell: Because Judas betrayed Jesus. That's What created this thing round Jesus, So, it's do not Feel offended if you're betrayed or if individuals don't like you're being criticized. Maybe that's a blessing in disguise. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: There was another saying that was about betrayal and blessings however you presumably can't have the blessing with out betrayal or something like that. In one other one that I love,…
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: that did not come from TD Jakes. I first heard it from Ed Mylett and…
Sophia Burrell: Okay. …
Joshua Berglan: that's life happens for you.
Sophia Burrell: I love the mallet.
Sophia Burrell: Hello guys.
Joshua Berglan: I interviewed him three or…
Joshua Berglan: 4 years in the past and I had the most effective time right here.
Sophia Burrell: You want you?
Joshua Berglan: Do I?
Sophia Burrell: He said it met him. did…
Joshua Berglan: Yeah, I interviewed him. yeah,…
Sophia Burrell: Wow.
Joshua Berglan: yeah, it I was when I was living in LA and He was nice.
Sophia Burrell: My goodness. No, I'm jealous.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up.
Sophia Burrell: I'm so jealous of that.
Joshua Berglan: He opened up on his relationship with God and I obtained him to speak in a different way than he normally does an interviews and…
Sophia Burrell: Right. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: it was nice however I obtained kicked off of YouTube and so I lost that I interviewed somewhere, however I misplaced it anyway…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah. yeah.
Joshua Berglan: but he is an incredible man but he mentioned that too in that same stuck out to my head as a end result of each time something dangerous occurred. I developed this mindset of going.
Sophia Burrell: Yes.
Joshua Berglan: I know that is taking place for me.
Sophia Burrell: For 4 causes.
Joshua Berglan: I auditioned for the Miami warmth, I can now say it. I to do TV for them and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: audition and I simply discovered that I didn't get it. anyone else's got the gig and my first response was Something better is coming from me. I received one thing better and…
Sophia Burrell: Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: I really didn't even really want the job because I'm a Oklahoma City Thunder fan but it would have been an excellent alternative. But my quick reaction was Something God's received one thing higher for me and…
Sophia Burrell: Of course.
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: And I would have by no means had that mindset if I didn't hear 4 years ago, life occurs for you.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, of course. Yeah. No.
Joshua Berglan: Because I'm not a sufferer and every thing is figuring out in my favor.
Sophia Burrell: Yes, your favor.
Joshua Berglan: God has confirmed that every day of my life and even after I was not even walking with God, Looking again at it. When I should have in all probability been killed,…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: God should have simply taken me out. He was nonetheless lining my paths, and with all of the hardship, all the wrestle, all of that. It's all turned out to be a blessing. Every little bit of it.
Sophia Burrell: Do you recall this other sermon that he had concerning the storm? so generally No,…
Joshua Berglan: How eagles rise above the storm? and…
Sophia Burrell: no, we're not.
Joshua Berglan: it was, are you talking about How an eagle uses the storm to rise above?
Sophia Burrell: yeah, I know but that one, too, but that is not the one I'm referred to. So,
Joshua Berglan: that's Miles Monroe. They did that one. Okay, good.
Sophia Burrell: so he stated, Sometimes, when a the storm doesn't come to hurt you. The storm comes to maybe redirect your path. Yeah, proper.
Joshua Berglan: I like that one, too.
Joshua Berglan: I, Man, what a life. You're so enjoyable to speak to. I'm so glad that you simply got here on.
Sophia Burrell: yeah, you do.
Joshua Berglan: I need you to, I imply, we might just hold speaking for hours, but I would love so that you can please plug your business plug the place folks can observe you, where folks can get their recreation made and…
Sophia Burrell: Yeah.
Joshua Berglan: and simply share something that's in your coronary heart.
Sophia Burrell: It's Sophia Burrell. I N T L. Dot com. That's the web site. And I also have a course called Gamify Your targets. And I lately modified it to gamify yourself. So the course is predicated on the victory acronym, we spoke of earlier. And you'll find a way to join there at gamify your objectives.com.
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Joshua Berglan: Excellent, do you have any final words? Okay. Sophia.
Sophia Burrell: That's it good to fulfill you, Joshua.
Joshua Berglan: You are a blessing. I'm so glad we received to speak and I sit up for getting to know you extra All…
Sophia Burrell: Thank you a lot. Have a fantastic day. Bye.
Joshua Berglan: Thank you..